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mapleg May 21, 2016 5:32 pm

When did people become so picky in restaurants?
 
Mini Rant here.

Why are so many people so darn picky in restaurants these days?

Was at a local Chinese takeout type restaurant today. Extended family of about 8 people took a ridiculous amount of time to place their order trying to customize everything. Most of them were ordering a special combination dinner for one..you know the type that says "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" in giant print on the menu, with the only choice being to order it with rice or noodles.

One of them spent 10 minutes pointing out she did not eat rice or noodles, and the combo dinner comes with one or the other.. What could be done special for her? Finally the counter said "Order something else".

Husband piped up "what if" she was allergic to rice or noodles? Again, don't order them. Why are people so dense? This is in essence a fast food type non-franchised type place.

Here's a hint. If you are allergic to beef, don't go to a steak house. If you are allergic to rice and noodles, don't try to order the bargain special that comes with them and then try and bleat your way out of it.

TrojanHorse May 21, 2016 5:33 pm

While I hate this if I'm behind them I will also admit that I've probably done this before as well

superangrypenguin May 21, 2016 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by mapleg (Post 26662075)
Mini Rant here.

Why are so many people so darn picky in restaurants these days?

Was at a local Chinese takeout type restaurant today. Extended family of about 8 people took a ridiculous amount of time to place their order trying to customize everything. Most of them were ordering a special combination dinner for one..you know the type that says "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" in giant print on the menu, with the only choice being to order it with rice or noodles.

One of them spent 10 minutes pointing out she did not eat rice or noodles, and the combo dinner comes with one or the other.. What could be done special for her? Finally the counter said "Order something else".

Husband piped up "what if" she was allergic to rice or noodles? Again, don't order them. Why are people so dense? This is in essence a fast food type non-franchised type place.

Here's a hint. If you are allergic to beef, don't go to a steak house. If you are allergic to rice and noodles, don't try to order the bargain special that comes with them and then try and bleat your way out of it.

I agree with you. Please keep in mind that it is challenging having dietary restrictions. I am one of those people.

So, here's sort of the way I approach it.

I love steak, but I can't have dairy. Do I enjoy Ruth Chris? Yes, and at that price point I expect them to not put butter on my steak.

When I go to Tim Hortons, I very well prepare for the consequences despite consulting the allergen list.

So you're right, it is not reasonable for someone to be that picky at a restaurant at that price point.

enviroian May 21, 2016 5:45 pm


Originally Posted by mapleg (Post 26662075)
Mini Rant here.

Why are so many people so darn picky in restaurants these days?

Was at a local Chinese takeout type restaurant today. Extended family of about 8 people took a ridiculous amount of time to place their order trying to customize everything. Most of them were ordering a special combination dinner for one..you know the type that says "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" in giant print on the menu, with the only choice being to order it with rice or noodles.

One of them spent 10 minutes pointing out she did not eat rice or noodles, and the combo dinner comes with one or the other.. What could be done special for her? Finally the counter said "Order something else".

Husband piped up "what if" she was allergic to rice or noodles? Again, don't order them. Why are people so dense? This is in essence a fast food type non-franchised type place.

Here's a hint. If you are allergic to beef, don't go to a steak house. If you are allergic to rice and noodles, don't try to order the bargain special that comes with them and then try and bleat your way out of it.

What a family of morons. Why didn't they decide before. I would have definitely piped in and made a comment like "today, people" or something.

Their dietary "restrictions" or whatever they call them these days are not my concern.

Questioning rice or noodles at a Chinese restaurant? Total moron.

Thread probably better suited for c/e's thread regarding stupid people.

kokonutz May 21, 2016 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by mapleg (Post 26662075)
Mini Rant here.

Why are so many people so darn picky in restaurants these days?

Was at a local Chinese takeout type restaurant today. Extended family of about 8 people took a ridiculous amount of time to place their order trying to customize everything. Most of them were ordering a special combination dinner for one..you know the type that says "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" in giant print on the menu, with the only choice being to order it with rice or noodles.

One of them spent 10 minutes pointing out she did not eat rice or noodles, and the combo dinner comes with one or the other.. What could be done special for her? Finally the counter said "Order something else".

Husband piped up "what if" she was allergic to rice or noodles? Again, don't order them. Why are people so dense? This is in essence a fast food type non-franchised type place.

Here's a hint. If you are allergic to beef, don't go to a steak house. If you are allergic to rice and noodles, don't try to order the bargain special that comes with them and then try and bleat your way out of it.

In my family the substituters would have been mercilessly mocked. In the moment and for years after.

mapleg May 21, 2016 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 26662083)
I agree with you. Please keep in mind that it is challenging having dietary restrictions. I am one of those people.

So, here's sort of the way I approach it.

I love steak, but I can't have dairy. Do I enjoy Ruth Chris? Yes, and at that price point I expect them to not put butter on my steak.

When I go to Tim Hortons, I very well prepare for the consequences despite consulting the allergen list.

So you're right, it is not reasonable for someone to be that picky at a restaurant at that price point.

100% agree. Took me a while before I realized some top end restaurants put butter on a steak. (I hate taste of butter--not an allergy, I just don't like it)

So, yes, at Ruth Chris one can easily say "hold the butter", but when you go to a cheap restaurant with the words "SORRY, NO SUBSTITUTIONS" printed on the menu? Sheesh.

Maybe they should go to Pizza Pizza and ask for a pizza with no crust.

superangrypenguin May 21, 2016 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by mapleg (Post 26662176)
100% agree. Took me a while before I realized some top end restaurants put butter on a steak. (I hate taste of butter--not an allergy, I just don't like it)

So, yes, at Ruth Chris one can easily say "hold the butter", but when you go to a cheap restaurant with the words "SORRY, NO SUBSTITUTIONS" printed on the menu? Sheesh.

Maybe they should go to Pizza Pizza and ask for a pizza with no crust.

I needed a good laugh. That was freaking hilarious re: Pizza Pizza. :D

MSPeconomist May 21, 2016 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by mapleg (Post 26662176)
100% agree. Took me a while before I realized some top end restaurants put butter on a steak. (I hate taste of butter--not an allergy, I just don't like it)

So, yes, at Ruth Chris one can easily say "hold the butter", but when you go to a cheap restaurant with the words "SORRY, NO SUBSTITUTIONS" printed on the menu? Sheesh.

Maybe they should go to Pizza Pizza and ask for a pizza with no crust.

Saying no butter is not the same as requesting a substitution unless you ask for something else in place of the butter.

readywhenyouare May 21, 2016 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 26662234)
Saying no butter is not the same as requesting a substitution unless you ask for something else in place of the butter.

If you make your wait staff angry enough with special requests then I can guarantee they will give you something in place of butter. :eek:

csufabel May 21, 2016 6:34 pm

Not to get /PR, but Anglo-American culture has encouraged an "all about you" culture for years for individuals but it is totally against the longer standing "No Substitutions" rules elders have lived with.

Then again, if not on the road for work, I rarely dine out. I even cook when visiting my Mom since she buys so much from Sam's and BJ's.

If I were a restauranteur, I'd be weary today.

kokonutz May 21, 2016 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by csufabel (Post 26662260)
not to get /pr, but anglo-american culture has encouraged an "all about you" culture for years for individuals but it is totally against the longer standing "no substitutions" rules elders have lived with.

Then again, if not on the road for work, i rarely dine out. I even cook when visiting my mom since she buys so much from sam's and bj's.

If i were a restauranteur, i'd be weary today.

no soup for you! ;)

Non-NonRev May 21, 2016 6:55 pm

It happens on the high end as well, especially at places with set tasting menus (no a la carte ordering possible as it causes the kitchen to become unfocused).

Still, some people want to deviate. Restaurants will inform the guest that they skip the course, of course.

chrisl137 May 21, 2016 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 26662083)
When I go to Tim Hortons, I very well prepare for the consequences despite consulting the allergen list.

Tim's donuts are terrible-- more or less the same as Dunkin. If you're going to suffer consequences from eating a donut, at least make it a good one.

satman40 May 21, 2016 7:46 pm

My wife ask for pizza no crust, everything was fine till she received the bill...

Truth is it is now on the menu at our local pizza place,,

Chinese are the worst picking out vegetables to purchase..

They are paying for it and so are you...

I like Ruth Chris, and they will hold the butter, just like Burger King...

Even White Castle will do no pickles...

james318 May 21, 2016 8:06 pm

I ran into this recently at a chain Chinese takeout place in Vegas (think drunk food...). I don't eat rice or noodles, and just asked for food without them. The woman working told me I HAD to have one or the other and I could not get anything in its place. I explained to her that I wasn't looking for anything additional, just didn't want them to waste the rice or noodles on me. It took a managers involvement. I couldn't understand why I could get just a scoop of the yella' and a scoop of the blue without rice/noodles and still pay the same price without the manager OK'ing it.


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