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darthbimmer Oct 27, 2014 5:49 pm

I often dine alone when traveling on business. In such situations I tend to sit at the restaurant's bar-- assuming a reasonable menu of food is offered there. Service is faster, as there's usually no waiting to sit and it's easier to flag the bartender's attention when I'm ready to order than it is to catch a waiter's attention. Sitting at the bar also offers opportunities to socialize, both with the bartender and with fellow customers.

EuropeanPete Oct 27, 2014 7:14 pm

One thing I do like about US restaurant culture is the bar with food. In Europe it's really not so common. With the exception of hotel bars, I can only think of two restaurants at the moment in London with a bar suitable for lone eating...

Doc Savage Oct 27, 2014 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by cyclogenesis (Post 23745799)
Funny and timely thread :)

I really noticed this effect on my latest Aus trip.. Several places "Is it just going to be you?" And often that correlates with a need to be very proactive about receiving service..

Found more so in business eating establishments which expect groups to be dining..

With really no tipping in Oz, why would the server care? Fewer people, less work, same pay....:confused:

MSPeconomist Oct 27, 2014 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by BigJC (Post 23745761)
I like it when I walk in and the host/hostess greets me with "Oh. Just one?"

That's slightly better than "Are you all alone?" and its translations into various languages).

BadgerBoi Oct 27, 2014 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 23746900)
With really no tipping in Oz, why would the server care? Fewer people, less work, same pay....:confused:

I'm puzzled too, I find it easier to dine alone in Australia than in most places. Maybe it's just because I live here so I'm more comfortable with the setting than when I'm overseas.

Higher end places are always more awkward anywhere when alone, and I'm not one to be intimidated by snooty waiters or that sort of thing

Doc Savage Oct 27, 2014 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 23747138)
I'm not one to be intimidated by snooty waiters or that sort of thing

Can't say that surprises me...:D

BadgerBoi Oct 27, 2014 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 23747432)
Can't say that surprises me...:D

:D
TBH I sort of find them vaguely comical

Doc Savage Oct 27, 2014 11:18 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 23747582)
:D
TBH I sort of find them vaguely comical

The ones in Paris are the best.

They have it down to a fine art.:D

bensyd Oct 27, 2014 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 23747643)
The ones in Paris are the best.

They have it down to a fine art.:D

I had a French one in London who I swear had come straight from Central Casting. My dining companion spoke fluent French, I did not. When I asked a question about the menu he stared down his nose at me as though I'd just crawled out from under a rock and pretended as though he couldn't understand what I was asking about.

Me to friend in a slightly raised voice: You'd think they could at least hire employees who can speak English.

Waiter: Excuse me I can understand you.

Me: I know.

Good times.:D

USA_flyer Oct 28, 2014 5:50 am

I find by the time I'm on my 2nd glass of wine, I really don't care about the fact I am dining on my own or that the service is bad.

:p

wrp96 Oct 28, 2014 9:19 am


Originally Posted by lwildernorva (Post 23745451)
I tend be the exact opposite. While there are times I might prefer to have a table to myself, I've found myself gravitating to bar seating when dining alone. It probably helps that many restaurants in the US are now nonsmoking so that doesn't interfere with dining.

The problem isn't the eating at the bar. It's the fact that usually that question comes with a tone of "don't waste my time seating/serving/taking care of just one person," instead of a "in case you are interested and didn't know, we do serve food at the bar as well." Because it should be my choice, not something imposed on me by someone who doesn't know how to do their job well.

s0ssos Oct 28, 2014 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 23749748)
The problem isn't the eating at the bar. It's the fact that usually that question comes with a tone of "don't waste my time seating/serving/taking care of just one person," instead of a "in case you are interested and didn't know, we do serve food at the bar as well." Because it should be my choice, not something imposed on me by someone who doesn't know how to do their job well.

What about a neutral "bar or table"? Said in the same tone as "for here or to go" at fast food places (where the cashier could care less)

wrp96 Oct 28, 2014 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 23751167)
What about a neutral "bar or table"? Said in the same tone as "for here or to go" at fast food places (where the cashier could care less)

That doesn't bother me.

lwildernorva Oct 28, 2014 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 23749748)
The problem isn't the eating at the bar. It's the fact that usually that question comes with a tone of "don't waste my time seating/serving/taking care of just one person," instead of a "in case you are interested and didn't know, we do serve food at the bar as well." Because it should be my choice, not something imposed on me by someone who doesn't know how to do their job well.

I guess I haven't really encountered that problem since I generally get the question, "would you prefer the bar or a table?" I normally pick the bar, but I've never been refused on the few occasions I've said table. I usually ignore tone because there's such a subjective element to that--unless I continue to get that tone throughout the course of my evening at the restaurant.

Kagehitokiri Oct 28, 2014 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by VivoPerLei (Post 23742997)
I have no hesitation getting out of my chair to go hunt down the server or manager if necessary.

agree, and service expectations should vary - it is not logical to expect "good" service in a "bad" restaurant .. and or "full service" in a "restaurant" (being used generically) that is not a full service restaurant


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