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Originally Posted by uszkanni
(Post 23007092)
Adding a 15-20% service charge and a big "no tipping necessary!" line to the bill would be my preferred way to go. If the service is poor, complain to the manager/owner and if nothing is done about it just don't go back.
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Originally Posted by emma69
(Post 23017772)
My American friends pronounce it 'Mer-low'
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Originally Posted by Jason Tan
(Post 23153931)
I paid for a $6 meal with a $10 bill and received approx. $1.10 in change. When I politely asked my server where the rest of my change was, she promptly replied that she had taken out her tip from the bill.
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Helpful tip suggestion on receipt (?)
Notice the helpful suggestions for the tip. I'm irritated by this for two reasons:
1 -- It starts at 20%. Isn't the custom 15%? 2 -- The 'suggestions' are calculated incorrectly. The tip should be calculated on the pre-tax total. So I left $6. A good tip on a $30 tab, and left thinking I was cheap. Comments? http://www.dinigroup.com/~mdini/tip_cm.jpg |
I don't think having a suggested tip line is a bad thing. It helps people try and do math that many have trouble with.
15% used to be the norm, but many places/servers are pushing that higher to a minimum 20% as the expected tip. I believe it should be on pre-tax and that's how I tip and was raised/taught. The restaurant I'm involved in has 15/18/20 on pretax. The POS system allows the restaurant to choose: suggested tip/no suggested tip pretax/after tax % |
It's this kind of crap that brings out the inner skinflint in me. 15% is certainly acceptable and these pre-printed amounts are really presumptious.
Not to mention the fact that waiters are already paid minimum wage in California. |
I agree that pre tax is appropriate...
But, I notice.... You actually did not leave a tip and reduced your total bill! :) I think the $6.00 should have gone at "Other" and the Total would have been $38.70. I almost NEVER go above 20%... I start at 15% and go up or down based on level of service. |
The intention is!'t to be helpful to the customer, it's intention is to make the customer feel uncomfortable about leaving it blank. It's a mildish form of blackmail / coercion.
I would be less likely to leave a tip if this was put on my bill. |
Originally Posted by uk1
(Post 24590174)
The intention is!'t to be helpful to the customer, it's intention is to make the customer feel uncomfortable about leaving it blank. It's a mildish form of blackmail / coercion.
I would be less likely to leave a tip if this was put on my bill. |
Originally Posted by Doc Savage
(Post 24589688)
Not to mention the fact that waiters are already paid minimum wage in California.
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Originally Posted by darthbimmer
(Post 24590468)
For this reason I've been trying to get my friends in California on board with the idea that "10% is the new 15".
And the OP is correct about tipping on the pretax total. |
I have yet to see a list of suggested tips -- from any vendor -- which did not include the tax when applying the %. It's just another reason to ignore them.
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Originally Posted by wharvey
(Post 24589811)
I agree that pre tax is appropriate...
But, I notice.... You actually did not leave a tip and reduced your total bill! :) I think the $6.00 should have gone at "Other" and the Total would have been $38.70. I almost NEVER go above 20%... I start at 15% and go up or down based on level of service. |
Originally Posted by uk1
(Post 24590174)
The intention is!'t to be helpful to the customer, it's intention is to make the customer feel uncomfortable about leaving it blank. It's a mildish form of blackmail / coercion.
I would be less likely to leave a tip if this was put on my bill. It would, however, reduce the likelihood of my returning to the restaurant. |
I hate all of this expectation of a tip and with amounts exceeding 15% too, that's exactly the type of thing that makes me not want to tip at all.
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