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milepig Feb 8, 2013 11:33 am

Great normal whole bean coffee?
 
I'm interested in hearing opinions on which whole bean coffees we should try.

I'm not wanting to start a debate about Keurigs or Nespressos, or pods vs. beans...

We have a integrated coffee maker/grinder we love and intent to continue to use it.

I used to have great luck buying beans at Costco, but over the past few months they're dramatically reduced the options to the point where I want to explore other options.

I'm not really interested in joining a "club" where they send me beans months, but rather in something I can buy as needed. I also see no need to spend a fortune for beans that have been fed to mountain goats and then gathered after they emerge from the other end and other similar exoticities. Just good solid flavorable beans.

Deep flavor is critical, fair trade is great but not an absolute requirement.

What do you all like?

DHSGemini Feb 8, 2013 11:57 am

Great normal whole bean coffee?
 
I really enjoy Zabars whole beans. You can order online as needed. The have many varieties so a good chance that one might appeal to you.

gfunkdave Feb 8, 2013 12:49 pm

How about just getting a pound from your local Starbucks? That's what I do. Nothing fancy, but it's fine. I like their darker roasts.

Just noticed you're in Chicago. Ignore my Starbucks thought and run, do not walk, to either Intelligentsia (on Broadway at about Wellington, downtown, or in the Merchandise Mart) or Metropolis (on I think Granville by Sheridan). Metropolis roasts its beans on site, and Intelligentsia is similarly awesome. Another excellent option is Peet's Coffee on North and Sheffield (in the strip mall). Peets has a good selection and they will make you a taste of any kind you want.

All three are exclusively fair trade (or more).

http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/
http://www.metropoliscoffee.com/
http://www.peets.com

aindfan Feb 8, 2013 1:12 pm

I more than second Metropolis and Intelligentsia, as well as Gaslight and Buzz Killer.

thelark Feb 8, 2013 1:23 pm

Gimme Coffee and Atomic Cafe

uk1 Feb 8, 2013 3:07 pm

I use to roast green beans and blend my own for my Gaggia. I'm now an unapologetic fan of Nespresso. It is 90% as good as of the best I ever achieved .......

cordelli Feb 8, 2013 3:14 pm

A local store (actually a couple of them) roasts in the store daily, so everything they have is usually no more than a couple days old. If you have a grocery store that does that, give them a shot.

milepig Feb 8, 2013 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20211119)
How about just getting a pound from your local Starbucks? That's what I do. Nothing fancy, but it's fine. I like their darker roasts.

Just noticed you're in Chicago. Ignore my Starbucks thought and run, do not walk, to either Intelligentsia (on Broadway at about Wellington, downtown, or in the Merchandise Mart) or Metropolis (on I think Granville by Sheridan). Metropolis roasts its beans on site, and Intelligentsia is similarly awesome. Another excellent option is Peet's Coffee on North and Sheffield (in the strip mall). Peets has a good selection and they will make you a taste of any kind you want.

All three are exclusively fair trade (or more).

http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/
http://www.metropoliscoffee.com/
http://www.peets.com

Starbucks is burned, sorry. Peets however is a good choice, but I may do mail order since I'll kill myself if I need to go anywhere near North/ Sheffield.


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 20211926)
I use to roast green beans and blend my own for my Gaggia. I'm now an unapologetic fan of Nespresso. It is 90% as good as of the best I ever achieved .......

I guess you missed my line about "I don't want to talk about Nespresso..."


Originally Posted by aindfan (Post 20211248)
I more than second Metropolis and Intelligentsia, as well as Gaslight and Buzz Killer.

Thanks for all the ideas - Intelligentsia is also a good option.

I think a taste test is in order.

gfunkdave Feb 8, 2013 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 20212841)
Starbucks is burned, sorry. Peets however is a good choice, but I may do mail order since I'll kill myself if I need to go anywhere near North/ Sheffield.

Then try the Starbucks blonde roast. Peet's is worth the in person trip (just take the red line) because they have this handy wheel at the cash register that lets you choose taste characteristics (roast, acidity, body, origin) and recommends a few varieties. And they'll make you a taste in store.

If you really don't want to go there, and want to order Peet's, get Arabian Mocha Sanani and don't look back. If that's too spendy, get Mocha Java.


Thanks for all the ideas - Intelligentsia is also a good option.

I think a taste test is in order.
Agreed!

uk1 Feb 9, 2013 2:32 am


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 20212841)
I guess you missed my line about "I don't want to talk about Nespresso..."

No need to be rude when others are trying to help.:td:

satman40 Feb 9, 2013 7:57 am

Costco is limiting their fresh roast beans selection...

Last time they raised their price I went with CoffeeAM,com

Great selection, $5.95 on the ship, good fresh coffee beans.

cubbie Feb 9, 2013 12:45 pm

Several years ago I saw a Cook's Illustrated review of coffees that rated Eight O'Clock coffee very highly. I've bought it ever since and have always enjoyed it. No need (for me, anyway) to buy anything more expensive.

GadgetFreak Feb 9, 2013 5:11 pm

We have recently been getting coffee from Justcoffee.coop in Madison, WI. Very good coffee, a variety of blends and I think all is fair trade. We particularly like "Bike Fuel" and "Cabin Fever" blends. Fast shipping also.

ianp Feb 9, 2013 5:23 pm

Buy freshly roasted from a local roaster , I find that after 6-8 weeks after roasting the taste goes downhill .

The beans you buy in supermarkets could have been roasted months if not years before you get them ..

gfunkdave Feb 9, 2013 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by ianp (Post 20217583)
Buy freshly roasted from a local roaster , I find that after 6-8 weeks after roasting the taste goes downhill .

Intelligentsia and Metropolis say that the flavor deteriorates after just a week or two.


The beans you buy in supermarkets could have been roasted months if not years before you get them ..
Years seems excessive, but weeks or months is plausible.

whackyjacky Feb 9, 2013 10:22 pm

I'm a fan of Indonesian, and I've been drinking Peet's 'Garuda Blend' for 30 years off & on. I've had better, but rarely. Here's a link for the adjectives: http://www.coffeereview.com/review.cfm?ID=1453 I like Trader Joe's Sumatra Lintong too, and it's a H*ll of a lot cheaper.

Michael El Feb 9, 2013 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 20210631)
I used to have great luck buying beans at Costco, but over the past few months they're dramatically reduced the options to the point where I want to explore other options.

I just picked up a terrific Costa Rican coffee at Costco. My local Costco cycles through different coffee beans from around the world and we've been happy with them all.

Do you have Trader Joe's? Joe's Bay Blend is a really nice coffee.

Doc Savage Feb 10, 2013 12:42 am

Trader Joe's Bay Blend if you like dark roast.

Trader Joe’s – Organic Fair Trade Breakfast.Blend if you like mellower coffee with all those pedigrees.

At TJ's prices, you could try some of their other roasts to see what you like.

Edit: Looks like Michael El beat me to this recc. :D

donnde Feb 10, 2013 7:02 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20211119)

Just noticed you're in Chicago. Ignore my Starbucks thought and run, do not walk, to either Intelligentsia (on Broadway at about Wellington, downtown, or in the Merchandise Mart) or Metropolis (on I think Granville by Sheridan). Metropolis roasts its beans on site, and Intelligentsia is similarly awesome. Another excellent option is Peet's Coffee on North and Sheffield (in the strip mall). Peets has a good selection and they will make you a taste of any kind you want.

All three are exclusively fair trade (or more).

http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/
http://www.metropoliscoffee.com/
http://www.peets.com

My local Whole Foods carries both Intelligentsia and Metropolis. Certainly not cheap, but I do like the Redline Espresso. We have friends who love Intelligentsia, so we bring them some when we pop over to their house for a casual dinner, instead of the usual bottle of wine.

crabbing Feb 10, 2013 8:49 am

i am a total fan of audubon coffee, roasted by the rogers family in california.

pleases PM me if you intend to try it out, as i get a bonus if i refer you.

gfunkdave Feb 10, 2013 8:57 am


Originally Posted by donnde (Post 20219830)
My local Whole Foods carries both Intelligentsia and Metropolis. Certainly not cheap, but I do like the Redline Espresso. We have friends who love Intelligentsia, so we bring them some when we pop over to their house for a casual dinner, instead of the usual bottle of wine.

Yeah, it's less expensive if you buy it direct and not at Whole Paycheck.

That said, I think $12-17/lb is the going rate for high quality coffee these days.

whackyjacky Feb 10, 2013 7:27 pm

Did some drinking with the Rodgers boys (Jim & John) in the old days. They were hooked up with Costco & building roasters at each store. They were always nervous since Costco was 80% of their biz. It's good to see they've branched out. I like their regular coffee and buy it a lot. It's priced well in 5lb bags.

thelark Feb 10, 2013 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by ianp (Post 20217583)
Buy freshly roasted from a local roaster , I find that after 6-8 weeks after roasting the taste goes downhill .

The beans you buy in supermarkets could have been roasted months if not years before you get them ..

I have been ordering my espresso from atomic cafe. Their shipping policy is in line with their roasting schedule to ensure freshness.


By and large we roast and ship Monday through Thursday. Webstore orders need to be placed by midnight of Wednesday to ensure we can have that order fulfilled in the same week. Orders placed after midnight of Wednesday may have to wait until the following Monday before it can be fulfilled.
http://www.atomicafe.com/policies.html

ianp Feb 10, 2013 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 20223037)
I have been ordering my espresso from atomic cafe. Their shipping policy is in line with their roasting schedule to ensure freshness.


http://www.atomicafe.com/policies.html

:) ^

ianp Feb 10, 2013 9:46 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20218409)



Years seems excessive, but weeks or months is plausible.

I live in Australia some supermarkets here will sell any old crap , including coffee roasted in Europe and then sent by sea to here !!!!

nrr Feb 12, 2013 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by ianp (Post 20217583)
Buy freshly roasted from a local roaster , I find that after 6-8 weeks after roasting the taste goes downhill .

The beans you buy in supermarkets could have been roasted months if not years before you get them ..

I just looked at a bag of whole bean EIGHT O'CLOCK coffee, it has a "best used by" date--so this gives you a rough idea of how long it's been on the shelf.

nerd Feb 12, 2013 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by nrr (Post 20234850)
I just looked at a bag of whole bean EIGHT O'CLOCK coffee, it has a "best used by" date--so this gives you a rough idea of how long it's been on the shelf.

How does that give you any idea when it was packaged, though? I mean, you don't know whether the "best used by" date is stamped for 2 weeks after packaging, or 52 weeks... right?

Elola Feb 12, 2013 7:18 pm

I've got to 2nd (or is it 3rd or 4th by now?!) the Intelligentsia recommendation. I had the extreme luck of living in The Heritage at Randolph and Garland (aka right around the corner from the Loop Intelligentsia) and getting my morning fix there is one of the things I miss the most about Chicago. I have a chemex (actually bought it at that very store) and I get the beans from a place by my NYC apt that stocks Intelligensia beans, but it's still not the same!

ksandness Feb 13, 2013 9:10 am


Originally Posted by whackyjacky (Post 20218686)
I'm a fan of Indonesian, and I've been drinking Peet's 'Garuda Blend' for 30 years off & on. I've had better, but rarely. Here's a link for the adjectives: http://www.coffeereview.com/review.cfm?ID=1453 I like Trader Joe's Sumatra Lintong too, and it's a H*ll of a lot cheaper.

Yes, when I had easy access to a Peet's store in Portland, Garuda Blend was my favorite.

Now that I'm in Minneapolis, and Peet's is hard to find, I go with local roaster Peace Coffee's blends.

Zinhead Feb 14, 2013 8:57 am

Trager Brothers in Charlottesville, Va. All organic and fair trade. Stumbled on them during a stopover. They ship as well. tbcroasters.com

work2fly Feb 14, 2013 9:08 am

When I lived in Columbus, OH, Stauf's was a great local coffee house / roaster.

It looks like free shipping all this month.

http://www.staufs.com/default.aspx

slawecki Feb 14, 2013 11:12 am

in italy, expresso beans are robusto. that is a different plant and flavor from arabica. robusto is very productive, and the beans used for the likes of maxwell house, etc.most fine coffees are aribica.

no one has mentioned the water they use in their coffee. makes a huge difference. RO and distilled are probably best. we have a double filter, and the difference in the coffee taste is considerable between when using the filter water instead of plain tap water. i have considered buying a RO machine to further improve the taste.

boston813 Feb 19, 2013 7:44 am

As a long time home roaster my recommendation is to find a local roaster that knows his trade. Just doing a quick search in the Chicago area I found a few that got good reviews and it has the added bonus of supporting a local small business. If you are looking for a national brand that you can pick up without too much fuss then I would put another vote in for Peet's coffee. They seem to do a good job of roasting and seem to use a higher quality bean than most of the larger roasters. I could talk for days on the virtues of using good tasting water and making sure you get it hot enough (most coffee makers fall a few degrees short) but that is a thread for another day.

thelark Feb 21, 2013 11:53 am


Originally Posted by slawecki (Post 20247493)
in italy, expresso beans are robusto. that is a different plant and flavor from arabica. robusto is very productive, and the beans used for the likes of maxwell house, etc.most fine coffees are aribica.

no one has mentioned the water they use in their coffee. makes a huge difference. RO and distilled are probably best. we have a double filter, and the difference in the coffee taste is considerable between when using the filter water instead of plain tap water. i have considered buying a RO machine to further improve the taste.

i stopped reading there

uk1 Feb 21, 2013 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by slawecki (Post 20247493)
in italy, expresso beans are robusto. that is a different plant and flavor from arabica. robusto is very productive, and the beans used for the likes of maxwell house, etc.most fine coffees are aribica.

no one has mentioned the water they use in their coffee. makes a huge difference. RO and distilled are probably best. we have a double filter, and the difference in the coffee taste is considerable between when using the filter water instead of plain tap water. i have considered buying a RO machine to further improve the taste.

Surprised to see this as I haven't heard of anyone suggesting that all Italian expresso is robusta or of any Italian brands being 100% robustA - it would be a highly astringent and somewhat bitter brew. It's added - I would have thought in say around a max of 15% / 85% robusta / arabica. It is predominantly for crema and astringency and cost reduction.

Are you aware of some 100% robusta brands - as I've not heard of any before?

I agree with using filtered water. It really does improve coffee.

gfunkdave Feb 21, 2013 4:45 pm

Both of you: espresso, not expresso.

Gfunkdave
Chief Proofreader

shizzy Feb 21, 2013 6:25 pm

I'm also a fan of Trader Joes' coffee beans. Their Trader Joe's "Joe" Medium roast is really good stuff.

uk1 Feb 22, 2013 2:31 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20293304)
Both of you: espresso, not expresso.

Gfunkdave
Chief Proofreader

I hope you are on the pedant register ......

You are quite right of course .... but in mitigation I was just following orders .....

gfunkdave Feb 22, 2013 7:50 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 20295492)
I hope you are on the pedant register ......

You are quite right of course .... but in mitigation I was just following orders .....

I've successfully evaded the pedant police for many years now!

Mary2e Feb 24, 2013 3:45 pm

Great normal whole bean coffee?
 
For plain old daily coffee beans we used to buy eight o clock in any of their varieties. Decent coffee without the gourmet pricing. We got a Kuerig and stopped getting it. Now they're making pods too.


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