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CityRules Dec 30, 2011 11:51 pm

Taking food into the US
 
I've searched around but surprisingly I can't seem to find an answer. Am I permitted to take a loaf of bread (Hovis seeds and grains) into the US?

Gash Dec 31, 2011 12:26 am

US Customs and Border Protection site....


https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/82

This may help - or at least direct you to someone that knows? It seems to suggest bread is ok.

CityRules Dec 31, 2011 12:47 am

Thanks Gash

Expatbear Dec 31, 2011 1:22 am

What a faff those rules are. Even customs officers don't get them right. I got asked one time by customs if I was "sure I didn't have any food I was bringing in. I'd ticked no on the form. "No," I said. "Just some tea for my family." "That's food. You have to declare it."

OK, fine. Next time I ticked yes.

"What food do you have?" "Some tea." "That isn't food. Don't tick the box unless you have fresh produce, meat, cheese, that kind of thing. You should know that." :mad:

OxonCantab Dec 31, 2011 1:30 am

Food = anything edible. For tea, tick the box to err on the side of caution and provide explanation if asked.

My response, yes, I am bringing in tea, and toffee.

GRALISTAIR Dec 31, 2011 1:33 am


Originally Posted by CityRules (Post 17719747)
I've searched around but surprisingly I can't seem to find an answer. Am I permitted to take a loaf of bread (Hovis seeds and grains) into the US?

No - no- it is a big no-no. My wife has been stopped twice now and reprimanded - 1st time was for an apple (it contains seeds) even though they (the airline) gave it her on the plane. She did not want to eat it on the plane but did not want to waste it either. The 2nd time was a loaf of bread. They really DO NOT like any food stuff of this nature or other brought into the US. They made aa note too.The Customs guy said - mm- last time you bought an apple in. So it looks like they document it too.

MSPeconomist Dec 31, 2011 1:44 am

I've had no problem with chocolate candy, cookies, croissants, etc. I check yes on the form and write in what the food is. They might ask if I have any other food, but no big deal.

However, any fruit, vegetables, meat, cheese, etc. can be a very big deal and lead to a big fine if caught. Sometimes these items are inspected and approved, such as tulip bulbs and flowers from Holland, but the risk to agriculture and health could be nontrivial from some food products. Please don't try to do it. (BYW, Australia is much more strict about this than the USA.)

stimpy Dec 31, 2011 2:00 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 17719958)
However, any fruit, vegetables, meat, cheese, etc. can be a very big deal and lead to a big fine if caught.

I never declare, whether I have food or not. It slows down my getaway dramatically. But one very rare time at LAX they searched my laptop bag and I had a banana from the flight in there. They just smiled and binned it. No fines or anything.

Wasn't there a Monty Python sketch about a man armed with a banana?

MSPeconomist Dec 31, 2011 2:05 am

You were lucky. They could have been really nasty.

After a recent SIN-LAX flight, they seemed to send every passenger from our plane to secondary agricultural screening which meant standing in line for over an hour to have everything Xrayed. That was the day I finally decided to apply for GE even though my home airport doesn't yet have GE kiosks.

I do not remember Monty Python and the banana, but there was a thread on FT about the FA who stole a banana from the DL FC snack basket. Search for banana bandit.

stimpy Dec 31, 2011 2:14 am

I found it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w

How to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. :)

Steve_ZA Dec 31, 2011 2:34 am

I had some snack-type food on me when we flew to SFO in September. Had a 30 second conversation with the customs guys who said it was fine. Easier to declare and get them to check.

Yahillwe Dec 31, 2011 2:36 am

I have brought bread, chocolate, and banana with me. And I always bring macaroons always. The place I stay at expect them and not ONE box but usually 5 big boxes. Hold them in my carry on. Never have I been stopped. Maybe I should count my lucky stars.

I can understand apples, the seeds could planted. I will post here if I get stopped for the macaroon. And I never declare that I have a food item, forget that I really do. Oooops.

ale.penazzi Dec 31, 2011 3:54 am

Sometimes officers just want to take advantage of you.. As always..

I've been stopped and they confiscated a bottle of wine from my luggage claiming that it was not legal to bring bottled wine into the US.. I'm pretty sure they were just thirsty..

T8191 Dec 31, 2011 4:31 am

We always declare 5kg of chocolate candy - so far nobody has blinked at it. ;)

I do not bring other foodstuffs across borders, however tempting it might be.

whiskerxx Dec 31, 2011 4:52 am


Originally Posted by CityRules (Post 17719747)
I've searched around but surprisingly I can't seem to find an answer. Am I permitted to take a loaf of bread (Hovis seeds and grains) into the US?

Is it really necessary? :td:

I flew into Miami once. I'd had a banana in my bag, which I'd eaten before departure from heathrow.

At a very full baggage hall a nice little doggie was let loose and ran around sniffing everything enthusiastically. He decided to sit at my bag and his uniformed attendant strode over to speak to me.

Around 1,000 faces were all staring in my direction thinking it was a drugs bust!!:eek:

HIDDY Dec 31, 2011 5:05 am

We entered overland and had some fruit and veg taken off us. We had loads of other food items with us like seeds,coffee,tea,sauces,spices,etc. none of them seemed to bother them.

I think they're more concerned as to whether you're telling the truth or not on the form. Just be up front when declaring what you have.

exilencfc Dec 31, 2011 5:30 am

I had no problem taking in crumpets - which I put on my form. I suspect Hiddy is right and if you declare everything you'll probably be ok

HuwieHex Dec 31, 2011 5:35 am


Originally Posted by ale.penazzi (Post 17720218)
I've been stopped and they confiscated a bottle of wine from my luggage claiming that it was not legal to bring bottled wine into the US.. I'm pretty sure they were just thirsty..

But dehydrated wine is OK?

stimpy Dec 31, 2011 5:37 am

I really don't think it's as bad as you lot are making it out to be. They don't care if you are innocently bringing in something harmless. And if you declare something harmless, you are guaranteeing a longer wait.

Now entering Australia on the other hand...!! That's a different story.

KenJohn Dec 31, 2011 6:09 am

I always bring tea with me to the US. Otherwise, I prefer everything else, food wise, over there.

tooblue Dec 31, 2011 6:11 am

They will not tolerate any form of beef product: no matter how processed and cooked it might be. Having read on the customs site that meat which was canned and had been cooked in that can was permissible; I brought a canned steak & kidney pudding into the US. I declared it and had it confiscated.

You may not even bring in an Oxo cube. On one occasion, I brought and declared a British Christmas pudding. The ingredients were carefully scanned and they included beef suet. In the spirit of Christmas, the supervisor told the customs officer (who had intended to confiscate the pud) to turn a blind eye. Since then, we have always brought vegetarian Christmas puddings from the UK to the US. I think that the beef ban's only exception is made for one or two approved Italian salami manufacturers.

Is that an approved Italian salami in your pocket; or are you just happy to see me? ;)

stifle Dec 31, 2011 6:17 am

Unless you have something illegal to possess, not just import (e.g. drugs) you are highly unlikely to have issues if you declare it. Worst that happens is your ham sandwich goes in the bin. But if you don't declare and it gets found, you're in for trouble.

HIDDY Dec 31, 2011 6:17 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 17720449)
I really don't think it's as bad as you lot are making it out to be. .

The obvious things are meat,fruit, veg and dairy products. Apart from that there shouldn't be much problem. We hadn't put down the vitamins my wife had bought for the mother in law and they were spotted during the bag scan.
They asked us if they were seal oil caps which are banned but we had cod liver oil which was okay.

Bread will almost certainly be okay as the seeds will have been frazzled when baked.

stimpy Dec 31, 2011 6:19 am


Originally Posted by stifle (Post 17720559)
But if you don't declare and it gets found, you're in for trouble.

Not true in my experience, especially if it is just a small food item for your own consumption. On the other hand, if you are Arab or even look close to Arab, then all bets are off. It is the USA after all. :rolleyes:

CityRules Dec 31, 2011 6:59 am

Good to know these shared experiences. I'll declare my loaf in SFO tomorrow and let you know the outcome.

tmac100 Dec 31, 2011 8:37 am


Originally Posted by Expatbear (Post 17719919)
What a faff those rules are. Even customs officers don't get them right. I got asked one time by customs if I was "sure I didn't have any food I was bringing in. I'd ticked no on the form. "No," I said. "Just some tea for my family." "That's food. You have to declare it."

OK, fine. Next time I ticked yes.

"What food do you have?" "Some tea." "That isn't food. Don't tick the box unless you have fresh produce, meat, cheese, that kind of thing. You should know that." :mad:

Been there, dunn dat.
The excited states of america figures everyone is out to get them, and they act accordingly.

I am often checked on land crossings and they want to know why I have foreign money (less than 100 USD) in my wallet. Then they want to know ...
I have seen all sorts of vegetable products confiscated...

The latest was my sons could not bring an empty camping stove OUT of the USA on a fllight.

Flying into/out of Canada is comparatively easy.

Remember the USA was prepared to have their citizens and others die on 9/11 :rolleyes: when they stopped air traffic into the USA.

Their OWN citizens. Fortunately Canada allowed those aircrafy to land on Canadian soil. I am not bashing the Americans, just re-stating facts. They are excited. Deal with it ... :p

Be prepared for losing your stuff when you meet US border control types, no matter what you think.

HIDDY Dec 31, 2011 8:42 am


Originally Posted by tmac100 (Post 17720994)
Be prepared for losing your stuff when you meet US border control types, no matter what you think.

Not sure about that. I'm pretty sure they could have confiscated lots more of what we had if they wanted to.

The border crossing process at the Can/US border was all rather pathetic for two so called first world countries. Well over an hour and that was during a quiet period. :td:

meester69 Dec 31, 2011 8:47 am

I bought unpasteurised soft cheeses, they were fine, even though they are not allowed to be sold in the US.

tmac100 Dec 31, 2011 9:01 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 17720449)
I really don't think it's as bad as you lot are making it out to be. They don't care if you are innocently bringing in something harmless. And if you declare something harmless, you are guaranteeing a longer wait.....

Harmless is your term. The US border control types don't think from YOUR perspective..:rolleyes:

stimpy Dec 31, 2011 11:22 am


Originally Posted by tmac100 (Post 17721102)
Harmless is your term. The US border control types don't think from YOUR perspective..:rolleyes:

Actually I think they do. Because both of our perspectives are common sense. I wasn't harassed for not declaring my banana because I said I had picked it up on the plane and it was just a single banana. Common sense. Had I an entire bunch of bananas undeclared, common sense would have again reigned and I would have spent much more time at the the airport that day.

If they harass you for something innocent, it is because of some other reason rather than food.

Gash Dec 31, 2011 12:26 pm

I try to not bring any food stuff - too contentious. Given that there appears to be so many interpretations by different "officers" - it just doesn't seem worth it. Even saw a FA get an apple removed from her bag in the flight crew express line - had left it there purely by accident - but it got the "finger wagging" response anyway. I make a (virtual) list of all the things missed since last trip to UK - diligently work through it while on UK soil. Then hammer the Cadbury's on the plane if available. :D

I always wonder about when one of the questions on the form is whether you have been anywhere rural (farms, etc) - like most of Britain! and it is summer so there are always summer fetes and garden shows...all because of mad cow's disease (still used as a reason you cannot give blood in US)!

Love it or hate it - part of the US "over-excited" make-up. Just a big contrast to the English no big deal "it's only a flesh wound" Black Knight psyche :)

Anyway - can get a lot of imported stuff on-line now - just have to save up or take out a mortgage, especially painful when the UK price is part of the wrapper (like it used to be on the CurlyWurly) so you can see the "modified exchange rate" :rolleyes:

wrp96 Dec 31, 2011 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by tmac100 (Post 17720994)

The latest was my sons could not bring an empty camping stove OUT of the USA on a fllight..

Just because the camp stove was currently empty if it had ever been used then fumes could remain and cause a problem in the cargo hold. The refusal to allow it on the flight would've had absolutely nothing to do with customs.

Cedos Dec 31, 2011 2:19 pm

Part of the confusion also lies between what the "welcome to the US" video shows while you are waiting for immigration (at least in Boston) and the custom form.

The video seems to imply that only fresh products such as vegetables and meat are forbidden whereas the custom form asks you to declare any food.

For my last entry, I did not declare any food but had 24 cans of tuna in olive oil and was controlled. The officer told me I should have been honest on the form but let me keep the cans...

GRALISTAIR Dec 31, 2011 4:10 pm

Just brought some Scottish Shortbread in ( a type of cookie) and we declared it and there was no problem.

MSPeconomist Dec 31, 2011 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by whiskerxx (Post 17720321)
Is it really necessary? :td:

I flew into Miami once. I'd had a banana in my bag, which I'd eaten before departure from heathrow.

At a very full baggage hall a nice little doggie was let loose and ran around sniffing everything enthusiastically. He decided to sit at my bag and his uniformed attendant strode over to speak to me.

Around 1,000 faces were all staring in my direction thinking it was a drugs bust!!:eek:

It seems common for the dog to alert if you had forbidden food in your bag previously. This is not a big deal. The dog apparently responds to the remaining smell from the food.

Of course you can bring a limited amount of wine into the USA if you are over age 21 and are entering a state that permits this.

emcampbe Dec 31, 2011 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by Cedos (Post 17722541)
The video seems to imply that only fresh products such as vegetables and meat are forbidden whereas the custom form asks you to declare any food.

There is a difference between what you must declare and what is forbidden. Just because you have to declare it, it doesn't mean they will confiscate it. Agriculture may want to inspect it, and to determine if it is acceptable.

The proper thing to do is declare your food - 99 times out of a hundred (maybe more), the primary inspector will ask you what it is, and most things, chocolate, candy, cookies and about 95% of the stuff people actually bring - stuff other than meat, fruits, veggies, dairy, seeds, nuts, etc. - they will send you on your way. If you have any of those other things, they'll send you to be inspected, and you still may be ok.

The fact is - the US form does list the generic item "food" as one that must be declared (unlike most other countries, which list only specific kinds of foods). It is kind of sneaky the way they list it, because it is in the middle of a list of specific kinds of foods, so it is kind of hard to notice unless you are paying closer attention, but it is there in no uncertain terms. I live in the US, and when I used to bring cookies from home in Canada, etc. I would always have to declare "food," however, when asked what it was, I told them, and was always sent on my way. Going back to Canada, these items wouldn't need to be declared.

I once spoke with a customs officer at length about the food items that are not allowed into the US, and in no uncertain terms, he said that the only main categories of things that are 100% forbidden are citrus fruits (even those originating in the US) and goat meat. Other things, for example, fruits and vegetables may not be permitted based on something like country of origin (or if that can't be determined), but nothing else is outright. An apple, to use something that has been brought up in this thread, is not necessarily outright banned, if inspected by agriculture and determined to be from a place on a list of accepted countries (and dependent on where you are arriving from). However, my guess is, most of the time, simply not declaring your apple will lead to its confiscation if found, no inspection, because you failed to declare it.

One thing to note - may not be applicable to many on this board - but customs does seem to be loosening on this a bit, at least with trusted travelers. Those enrolled in Global Entry, and who use the kiosk's to enter instead of the paper customs forms, do not get asked to declare the generic "food," and are only asked to declare specific types of food, like most other countries I have been to do.

OxonCantab Dec 31, 2011 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 17723139)
It seems common for the dog to alert if you had forbidden food in your bag previously. This is not a big deal. The dog apparently responds to the remaining smell from the food.

Of course you can bring a limited amount of wine into the USA if you are over age 21 and are entering a state that permits this.

which states forbid this that have international arrivals?

beachfan Dec 31, 2011 7:41 pm

Based on 25+ times through customs:

1) Wine is fine, but may be charged duty (less likely these days as they seemed to have figured it costs them $40 to collect $20).
2) Bread is fine
3) Cheese is fine. The law says you can't bring in raw milk cheeses aged less than 30 days. I always bring them in when I go to France, and I declare it on my form "raw milk cheese aged less than 30 days". Never, even lost a fromage.
4)Fresh Fruit and veg is unlikely to be allowed. I just don't bring in fresh fruit/veg.
5) Meat is not allowed. When I bring in the raw milk cheese, they usually say "got any sausages" or something similar.

If you have something really special, it might be worth the hassle to bring it in. My wife bought orchids from Hawaii to California (the two strictest agricultural importing states) and requested an inspection. Took about 20 minutes and they were cleared.

alanh Dec 31, 2011 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by OxonCantab (Post 17723318)
which states forbid this that have international arrivals?

Utah -- DL 88 flies CDG-SLC, plus flights from Mexico. Arriving international passengers are allowed 1L of alcohol, and that's it. Bringing back a case of wine from your Paris trip would be an expensive mistake. It's not a matter of duties; 1L is a hard limit. Anything over that will be confiscated.

Technically speaking, passengers on domestic flights (or driving into the state) aren't allowed to bring any alcohol at all, but there's no customs inspection to catch you.

Utah allows only licensed distributors to bring any amount of alcohol into the state, with only a handful of exceptions (like the international arrivals at SLC or people moving to Utah with their wine cellar). Individuals bringing small amounts for their own personal use are not one of the exceptions.

tmac100 Jan 1, 2012 1:51 am


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 17722278)
Just because the camp stove was currently empty if it had ever been used then fumes could remain and cause a problem in the cargo hold. The refusal to allow it on the flight would've had absolutely nothing to do with customs.

Oh yawn, here we go again.

It doesn't take a degree in organic chemistry with a specialization in hydrocarbon fuels to understand that the fuel evaporates quickly and leaves no trace - not even for a gas chromatograph - you know those machines they put the "swab" into when shoes are swabed or when a box interior is swabed.

OTOH, these actions are usually spelled out by lawyers, and the like, who love to speculate about what could happen if.... Armchair quarterbacks and armchair lawyers also love to do that - especially when they have no vested interest in the topic at hand.

Well, each flight and each breath COULD be our last - and we will all eventually reach that situation.

Empty of fuel is just that - empty with no trace. Period.

Further to bureaucracy - It is interesting (for me) to note that flying into/out of other countries is easier BUT more expensive due to taxes and fuel surcharges, etc and those countries do not seem to be as excited about my travels around this planet. Page 3 of my Canadian passport has no restrictions as to which country I travel to or thru. I refer US customs types to that page when they ask why I travel and keep pushing the issue. Telling the truth is what I deal in when talking with US customs types and to me that is always the best policy. However, I will not be abused by any bureaucrat - and in a different Canada customs inspection situation, I had to ask for the superintendent when a Canadian border type told me that he could not allow me entry into Canada... BUT, that is another story. :rolleyes:


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