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EveryPointCounts Jul 6, 2010 6:23 am

Alcohol with your meat?
 
I use a little beer in marinating meats. From what I hear it is suppose to tenderize the mear a bit more. How about you guys?

cordelli Jul 6, 2010 8:17 am

I'll occasionally make a marinade for a whole ham that's a pineapple, brown sugar and Rum.

I'll use wine for lots of things from shrimp to duck to chiekcn to pork to beef.

Non-NonRev Jul 6, 2010 8:44 am

Beer is excellent for brats! :)

Curious_George Jul 6, 2010 11:19 am


Originally Posted by Non-NonRev (Post 14250923)
Beer is excellent for brats! :)

+1!

nerd Jul 6, 2010 1:04 pm

My guess is that there's nothing alcohol does to dissolve the tough proteins in meat. Additionally, marinades generally don't penetrate more than the outer 1/8" of the cut.

See, for example:


Here's what the great Chef Thomas Keller says in his award winning The French Laundry Cookbook: "If your marinating anything with alcohol, cook the alcohol off first. Alcohol doesn't tenderize; cooking tenderizes. Alcohol in a marinade in effect cooks the exterior of the meat, preventing the meat from fully absorbing the flavors in the marinade. Raw alcohol itself doesn't do anything good to meat. So put your wine or spirit in a pan, add your aromatics, cook off the alcohol, let it cool, and then pour it over your meat. This way you have the richness of the fruit of the wine or Cognac or whatever you're using, but you don't have the chemical reaction of 'burning' the meat with alcohol or it's harsh raw flavor."
http://www.amazingribs.com/recipes/r...marinades.html

CMK10 Jul 6, 2010 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by Non-NonRev (Post 14250923)
Beer is excellent for brats! :)

My Dad used to boil brats in beer before grilling them. It made the house smell awful but they sure did taste good.

MarqFlyer Jul 6, 2010 4:17 pm

Other than the beer with brats thing (I am originally from Wisconsin, after all), about the only alcohol I use in cooking is wine in Risotto.

Never heard of using beer or other alcohol as a tenderizer.

nkedel Jul 6, 2010 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by EveryPointCounts (Post 14250299)
I use a little beer in marinating meats. From what I hear it is suppose to tenderize the mear a bit more. How about you guys?

I'll often use a red wine/port/sherry in marinating cheaper cuts of beef; I've experimented with it with pork chops, but it tends to be a bit strong.

Never tried marinating in beer, but the New England tradition of "hot dogs steamed in beer" sure produces yummy results.

techboyds Jul 6, 2010 5:34 pm

We just found a recipe for peppercorn steak using Cabarnet Sauvignon that we're about to try, but the recipe does as the chef in the quote above says, and cooks off the alcohol before putting the sauce (probably a better term, but I don't know it) back on the steak.

deubster Jul 6, 2010 8:44 pm

Typical Chinese stir-fry recipes call for marinating the meat in rice wine & soy, with other items like egg, cornstarch, etc.

trooper Jul 6, 2010 8:49 pm

I like Bourbon with my food...

...in a separate glass.. with ice....:D

TimF1975 Jul 7, 2010 8:24 am

Alcohol in a marinade is more about flavor than tenderization IMO.

mapu Jul 8, 2010 8:29 am

There are some good pasta dishes that contain vodka and rum is a basic ingredient in many cakes.

N965VJ Jul 8, 2010 11:39 am

I like to use a little bourbon on pork chops or ribs after I coat them with a dry rub, which helps to dissolve the spices.

TimF1975 Jul 8, 2010 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 14265249)
I like to use a little bourbon on pork chops or ribs after I coat them with a dry rub, which helps to dissolve the spices.

Along these lines -- I make a glaze using bourbon, brown sugar and apple juice. I put the ribs in foil for the last 30 minutes on the smoker with this glaze and it really adds quite a bit to the finished product.


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