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TimF1975 May 11, 2010 8:56 am

Favorite Dessert Wine
 
What's your favorite sticky? I used to rank Vintage Port ahead of Sauternes but lately I've been more into Sauternes. Had a really nice bottle of '83 Guiraud the other night. It had a smokiness to it that I don't get very often in Sauternes that made it a very memorable wine.

cordelli May 11, 2010 9:25 am

I am not a huge port fan but do enjoy some, but do love many of the Late Harvest from Napa and Sonoma.

Prager's Aira White Port is good

Van Der Heyden's late havest anything (thought the Chard, Cab, and Petite Syrah are all wonderful)

And depending on what the meal was, sometimes you just can't beat a Vin Santo and a couple of cookies as dessert.

Nugget_Oz May 11, 2010 9:38 am

Botyris is very good - try the De Bortoli Noble One.

JumboJ May 11, 2010 9:57 am

d'Yquem, Suduiraut, Rieussec, Climens, Baumard Quarts de Chaume, SQN Iceman, Strawman, and Nobleman, anything from Kracher, too many German and Alsatian Eisweins and TBA's to list.

ScarletHarlot May 11, 2010 3:49 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 13937856)
I am not a huge port fan but do enjoy some, but do love many of the Late Harvest from Napa and Sonoma.

Prager's Aira White Port is good

Van Der Heyden's late havest anything (thought the Chard, Cab, and Petite Syrah are all wonderful)

And depending on what the meal was, sometimes you just can't beat a Vin Santo and a couple of cookies as dessert.

As the wife of a Portuguese citizen, I must point out that port should not be called port unless it's from Portugal...like Champagne cannot be called Champagne unless it's from France. Just to be pedantic. :D

I loves me some port. Our current favourites are Kopke 20 Year and Dona Matilde Colheita 1991. Mmmm.

anaggie May 11, 2010 4:04 pm

Wow.../.I have never even heard of half these wine !!

I have found Inniskillen to be satisfactory to what I require.

JumboJ May 11, 2010 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by anaggie (Post 13940304)
Wow.../.I have never even heard of half these wine !!

I have found Inniskillen to be satisfactory to what I require.

The world of wine is impossibly huge. Don't be afraid to try some new things.. you just might find a new favorite!

TimF1975 May 11, 2010 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by JumboJ (Post 13938036)
d'Yquem, Suduiraut, Rieussec, Climens, Baumard Quarts de Chaume, SQN Iceman, Strawman, and Nobleman, anything from Kracher, too many German and Alsatian Eisweins and TBA's to list.

I still have yet to try Yquem but I've got a couple bottles of it. I'm not a huge fan of the Quarts de Chaume. I think the SQN stuff tends to be overpriced for what it is. Had a Kracher the other night that didn't really get me going. I think I'm getting to the point where I've fallen in love with Sauternes and because I don't drink a lot of dessert wine, when I do, I want it!

TimF1975 May 11, 2010 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by ScarletHarlot (Post 13940236)
As the wife of a Portuguese citizen, I must point out that port should not be called port unless it's from Portugal...like Champagne cannot be called Champagne unless it's from France. Just to be pedantic. :D

I loves me some port. Our current favourites are Kopke 20 Year and Dona Matilde Colheita 1991. Mmmm.

Yes, it shouldn't be, but it is with reckless abandon. The Treaty of Versailles was never signed by the US so we don't offer protection over the name "Champagne" for example.

The terms "sparkling wine" and "fortified wine" just don't have the same ring to them! ;)

cordelli May 11, 2010 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by ScarletHarlot (Post 13940236)
As the wife of a Portuguese citizen, I must point out that port should not be called port unless it's from Portugal...like Champagne cannot be called Champagne unless it's from France. Just to be pedantic. :D

I loves me some port. Our current favourites are Kopke 20 Year and Dona Matilde Colheita 1991. Mmmm.

While I agree with what you are saying, the issue is the winery in Napa is called Prager Port Works, and the wine is called Aria White Port. It doesn't make it right, but if you are going to be searching for it, that's what it's called.

Sadly, the name is only protected in parts of Europe, where nobody else would probably use it anyways.

KiwiPanda May 11, 2010 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by TimF1975 (Post 13940498)
I still have yet to try Yquem but I've got a couple bottles of it. I'm not a huge fan of the Quarts de Chaume. I think the SQN stuff tends to be overpriced for what it is. Had a Kracher the other night that didn't really get me going. I think I'm getting to the point where I've fallen in love with Sauternes and because I don't drink a lot of dessert wine, when I do, I want it!

Oh do try the d'Yquem but be warned - you could be ruined for anything else...

gleff May 11, 2010 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by TimF1975 (Post 13940498)
I still have yet to try Yquem but I've got a couple bottles of it.

What are you waiting for? :confused:

The 'special occasion' after all is the day you open the bottle! @:-)

mjm May 11, 2010 6:43 pm

Probably have to say a good TBA. Austrian ones (Kracher) are a favorite, but Noble One as noted is a stellar wine. And ages well. The cousins in NZ also make an extraordinary dessert wine. Palliser Estate actually makes one out of Chardonnay grapes that is sold i the 375ml bottle but with low shoulders as with the wine made from the same grape. The various German offerings are good but I like a thicker sweeter wine than most Eiswein or late harvest become. Still though wouldn't kick one out of bed for eating crackers. ;)

The stuff from Inniskillin is a range that I cannot get my head around though. Seems sweet without the appropriate viscosity. Missing something.

Sauternes, any time yes please. And Tokaji is one that can come live with me any time also.

But as a favorite, I have to go with a good Neusiedlersee TBA.

On the Port and Champagne issue, I cannot think of anyone that would call something Port if it were not from Portugal. Californians who may do so are simply in the wrong. Treaties notwithstanding. A misnomer is simply that. Same goes for Champagne. Getting a name right is as important with wines as with many other things we enjoy. Americans get this as well and those who may label a product incorrectly are simply that, incorrect.

cordelli May 11, 2010 7:30 pm

Well to be fair they are trying to work out a new name for their port. I'm sure the wineries will all say they want to respect the wines from the proper region, but what it comes down to is they can not export them to many places because the name is not recognized.

Only wines that existed before 2006 in the US can use the name port, anything after has to use another name. Actually the leader of the group working it out is the winemaker from Prager. They are also looking for a newer name to bring in young people who feel port is a dusty stuck up wine for people in smoking jackets.

Assuming they can agree on a name, the members may move to switch away from the term port. I really don't care what the bottle says, it's what's in it that counts.

ScarletHarlot May 11, 2010 9:30 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 13941131)
They are also looking for a newer name to bring in young people who feel port is a dusty stuck up wine for people in smoking jackets.

What is wrong with the young people these days? ;)


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