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Originally Posted by cordelli
(Post 13941131)
Only wines that existed before 2006 in the US can use the name port, anything after has to use another name.
I think that a fair solution is the simple addition in fairly small letters somewhere on the front or back label of something to the effect that "This is a XXXX style wine and not a wine of XXXX origin". This would seem to pacify the European wine of specific place of origin issue and the Yank's very real issue with wanting to market their products. |
Originally Posted by ScarletHarlot
(Post 13941748)
What is wrong with the young people these days? ;)
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Desert wines are out of fashion for the most part, as most people don't realize the depth, finesse and delicacy that the better wines embody. I've drunk a lot of d'Yquem in my time, but no longer -- it simply doesn't merit the cost, and while being very (very) good there are actually other wines that are finer in absolute terms to my palate. Lately I have become interested in 2 diametrically opposed styles of desert wines: the Gewurz SGN for "young" wines (10+ years), and Muscat when older (generally 50+ years). Beats d'Yquem by a huge margin when cost is factored in. Muscat in particular is a massively under-rated grape, capable of astonishing flavour nuances (sadly it is rarely made properly, though that is partly a supply/demand/pricing problem).
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Muscat in particular is a massively under-rated grape, capable of astonishing flavour nuances (sadly it is rarely made properly, though that is partly a supply/demand/pricing problem). I would recommend Muscat de Baumes de Venise, and of course our local Vendanges Tardives - Gewurztraminer, Pinot Gris and of course Muscat though this tends to be harder to find. Those made by Hugel are particularly fine. |
Originally Posted by Alsacienne
(Post 13956076)
I would recommend Muscat de Baumes de Venise,
If you're looking for something else interesting, try New Zealand's Isabel Estate Noble Sauvage. Can cope with everything, even chocolate. If I'm short of cash, Quady Essensia Orange Muscat is very acceptable, too. |
Quady is not bad, but a different kind of wine. The Australian muscats are in a class of their own, definitely the best in the world imho (and I've drunk a lot of expensive wine, some not so fine).
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(NB spelling is Beaumes) |
The Tomić family Bastijana, Prošek Hectorovich (from the Island of Hvar, coastal region of Dalmatia, Croatia). I haven't been able to find it in the states though.
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LOVE LOVE LOVE
Paolo Saracco Moscato d'Asti It is my absolute favorite. Many eisweins that I have tried seem a bit thicker in consistency than I prefer. |
Originally Posted by TimF1975
(Post 13940574)
Yes, it shouldn't be, but it is with reckless abandon. The Treaty of Versailles was never signed by the US so we don't offer protection over the name "Champagne" for example.
The terms "sparkling wine" and "fortified wine" just don't have the same ring to them! ;) Also, had a 1994 Dow's Vintage Port on Saturday and it was drinking like it was just bottled. IMPOSSIBLY young! If I had more of it, I'd not want to open another for 20+ years. -Tooch |
Originally Posted by ECOTONE
(Post 14092452)
Tim, are you buying at 2009 futures? Some of the others are appealing and I've thought about buying a case or two of 375s.
Also, had a 1994 Dow's Vintage Port on Saturday and it was drinking like it was just bottled. IMPOSSIBLY young! If I had more of it, I'd not want to open another for 20+ years. -Tooch |
Australia's De Bortoli Noble One is a pretty epic botrytis semillion. Nothing subtle about it (it's Australian after all) but it possesses amazing complexity. There are quite a number of really excellent botrytis affected wines produced in Australia. Most from the Griffith region in New South Wales.
In heavier, leaning towards more port-ish styles, the best fortified wines from Australia's Rutherglen region on the Victorian/New South Wales border, are undoubtedly some of the finest fortified wines produced anywhere in the world bar nowhere. And most people outside of Australia would never have come across them. Most people only know Australia for overblown (and often nasty) Chardonnay and blockbuster Shiraz. And the makers of Yellow Tail should be prosecuted for bringing the Australian wine industry into disrepute. |
Vin Santo - with Biscotti, of course! Unfortunately really good ones are hard to come by in the US :( Well, that is, without totally breaking the bank. If anybody has a line on one that they consider really good - and reasonable, please post. I'll try just about any wine once . . . well, twice.
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Originally Posted by Surface Interval
(Post 14094291)
Vin Santo - with Biscotti, of course! Unfortunately really good ones are hard to come by in the US :( Well, that is, without totally breaking the bank. If anybody has a line on one that they consider really good - and reasonable, please post. I'll try just about any wine once . . . well, twice.
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Originally Posted by Surface Interval
(Post 14094291)
Vin Santo - with Biscotti, of course! Unfortunately really good ones are hard to come by in the US :( Well, that is, without totally breaking the bank. If anybody has a line on one that they consider really good - and reasonable, please post. I'll try just about any wine once . . . well, twice.
Know anything about this: 2001 Sonnino de Renzis Sonnino Vin Santo? |
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