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How to make Japanese brown curry from scratch?
I'm a huge fan of brown curry. Either alone, or topping tonkatsu, or as a soup with udon... brown curry rules!
There is just one problem: everywhere I try it, it's made from some sort of pre-made mix. If I make it at home, I am forced to use one of those "chocolate bar"-style mix packets, which are made with a ton of palm oil, a substance I abhor. They also contain a lot of corn starch or bleached flour, which I also avoid. I'm trying to figure out how to make it without these mixes. I'm thinking chicken stock, a Patak's curry paste, and what else? I want to be able to re-create the flavor of Japanese curry, but so far, I've had no luck. Any ideas, or recipe suggestions? |
I love Japanese curry! ^
I haven't found time to make it from scratch though. From my experiences of cooking with mix/paste, I realize I am not into Indian or SE Asia types of curries. Some ingredients/spices are too strong for my taste buds. See if this would help: Japanese curry powder Japanese curry powder These basic four spices make up 80 to 90% of the mix: * Turmeric (20-50%) * Coriander (20-30%) * Cumin (5-25%) * Cardamon (5-15%) Then the following ‘hot’ spices make up about 5% of the blend. If you want to increase the amount of hot spices, decrease the turmeric accordingly. * Black pepper (2-8%) * Chili (cayenne) pepper (0.5 - 2%) The remaining 5-15% is taken up with aromatic spices. Adjusting these spices makes the powder distinctive. * Clove (3-5%) * Fennel (1-2% All of the above are the basic spices Here’s a standard garam masala mixture from an old Japanese curry cookbook I have, if you’d like to make up your own, starting from whole spices: Garam Masala (a la Japonaise?) * 4 sticks of cinnamon * 1/2 cup cardamon pods * 1/3 cup cloves * 1/3 cumin * 1/4 cup coriander * 1/3 cup black pepper * 1/3 cup white pepper
Originally Posted by notsosmart
(Post 13302720)
I'm thinking chicken stock, a Patak's curry paste,...
If you want to cook Japanese curry, I would think using powder/paste that are similar to House, S&B and Glico brand may get you better results. Like I say, I think Indian curry is very different from Japanese curry. |
Originally Posted by notsosmart
(Post 13302720)
I'm a huge fan of brown curry. Either alone, or topping tonkatsu, or as a soup with udon... brown curry rules!
There is just one problem: everywhere I try it, it's made from some sort of pre-made mix. If I make it at home, I am forced to use one of those "chocolate bar"-style mix packets, which are made with a ton of palm oil, a substance I abhor. They also contain a lot of corn starch or bleached flour, which I also avoid.......... Japanese curry seems more savory to me than generic Indian (yes, I know there are countless "types") curries. Some soy sauce is probably added (MSG or glutamates), is my educated guess. There are a billion Patak curry pastes-in-a-jar. They're mostly Indian in flavor profile. Make your own curry (which just means a sauce); they sell generic curry powder blends if you are lazy or don't want to spend money buying each separate spice. |
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Wow thanks for the great finds. Looks like combining lin821's and missydarlin's recipes is the way to go. I'll give it a go and report back. :)
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Originally Posted by DLSIZE
(Post 13313194)
No no no no can't be runny like that. The crappy curry houses in Honolulu serve it like that, and I can barely eat it. In fact I don't anymore. :td: :td: When I apprenticed with a Japanese chef in my former life, we made absolutely everything from scratch. Except for the curry. Oh sure, it wasn't just pre-made mix, but it was the main ingredient. I was honestly really surprised, because this guy was in the top 5 of Japanese chefs working in the U.S. at the time. Yet he didn't mind using a crappy mix he ordered from JFC. I've been seeking to make it all from scratch ever since. Gotta make some stock this week anyway, so I might as well set some aside for curry! |
The crappy mix is so full of crap in it that I rarely buy it. These recipes give me inspiration!
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[QUOTE=DLSIZE;13313194]Who needs a recipe when there is カレーハウスココ?
Definitely the best curry for my money too. The runiness n that picture is because it is lacking several of the wonderful toppings that one adds. But pund for pound, CoCo kicks all butts for my 1000yen. |
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Originally Posted by DLSIZE
(Post 13313194)
Who needs a recipe when there is カレーハウスココ?
Definitely the best curry for my money too. The runiness n that picture is because it is lacking several of the wonderful toppings that one adds. But pund for pound, CoCo kicks all butts for my 1000yen. |
Originally Posted by jakuda
(Post 13312125)
Japanese curry seems more savory to me than generic Indian (yes, I know there are countless "types") curries. Some soy sauce is probably added (MSG or glutamates), is my educated guess.
Though I've seen westerners adding soy sauce to dishes that I can't imagine eating with it. :D
Originally Posted by notsosmart
(Post 13312752)
Wow thanks for the great finds. Looks like combining lin821's and missydarlin's recipes is the way to go. I'll give it a go and report back. :)
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Originally Posted by mjm
(Post 13313991)
It also (used to be) great food after too many drinks. |
Here's the recipe for Japanese curry from my Japanese food guru
http://www.justhungry.com/japanese-beef-curry If you have problems sourcing the right kind of curry powder, lin821's post should help. I could never stand the sort of curries available in School canteens and in other kids' homes in the 1970s in England and I can't stand Japanese curry either. I do have absolute faith in the Just Hungry recipes though. |
Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 13315885)
Here's the recipe for Japanese curry from my Japanese food guru
http://www.justhungry.com/japanese-beef-curry If you have problems sourcing the right kind of curry powder, lin821's post should help. I could never stand the sort of curries available in School canteens and in other kids' homes in the 1970s in England and I can't stand Japanese curry either. I do have absolute faith in the Just Hungry recipes though. Calls for an apple. Interesting. |
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
Oh baby, it still is. It still is. Open 24 hours a day in my neighborhood. 24 hour CoCo - there is a God |
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