Rolling One-Week Schedule Changes to Eliminate NW Flights
Dec 16, 2009, 4:51 am
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Rolling One-Week Schedule Changes to Eliminate NW Flights
NWA bookers beware, the end is nigh:
Delta to phase out flights under the NWA rubric
Delta to phase out flights under the NWA rubric
"There will be no big bang," [Therese] Wise said. In January and February, the airline will begin rolling out schedule changes, starting with flights in the fall, a slow time for the airlines.
Passengers already booked on Northwest flights next fall will find those flights automatically converted to Delta flights, with passengers keeping the same seats and meals. That rolling changeover of flights will move continually another week into the future "to minimize confusion for customers," Wise said. "Over time, there will be no more Northwest flights to sell."
Passengers already booked on Northwest flights next fall will find those flights automatically converted to Delta flights, with passengers keeping the same seats and meals. That rolling changeover of flights will move continually another week into the future "to minimize confusion for customers," Wise said. "Over time, there will be no more Northwest flights to sell."
Dec 16, 2009, 8:30 am
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I loved this quote, which I probably should also post on the other thread you started, made by Ed Bastion:
And obviously his quote shows he really knows nothing about accounting or running an airline. Increasing revenue should not be the goal, increasing profit should be.
Delta is projecting a $1.1 billion net loss for 2009, but executives expect a stronger 2010. If a recovery in airline revenue doesn't occur next year, Delta President Ed Bastian cautioned further cuts could be made.
So "stronger 2010" could mean losing only $500 million ? And obviously his quote shows he really knows nothing about accounting or running an airline. Increasing revenue should not be the goal, increasing profit should be.
Dec 16, 2009, 9:31 am
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Since a large portion of the airlines' costs are fixed, there are only so many additional reductions that can be made. If you're going to increase profits, the only other portion of the equation that you can work on is revenue.
Dec 16, 2009, 10:07 am
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At least Bastion and I don't think the "only other portion of the equation that you can work in is revenue."
Dec 16, 2009, 10:11 am
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I did. However, your statement that, "increasing revenue should not be the goal, increasing profit should be" was what I was responding to.
Dec 16, 2009, 10:23 am
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I stand by my statement. Increasing revenue is a means to an end. Increasing profit is the goal. Increasing revenue is not the only way to do that, per Bastion and me. At least I agree with him on one point!
Dec 16, 2009, 11:00 am
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All flights from now on should be booked as DL 006 tickets, as it will become more complicated to exchange NW 012 tickets for DL 006 tickets. Same for flights operated by KL.
Dec 16, 2009, 12:18 pm
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Did you read the article in full? Either way, it won't change the following: cutting costs in DL's case is most likely going to include more cuts in frequency and/or equipment, combining together for more schedule changes for more DL customers.
Nothing off-topic about fti's post.
Nothing off-topic about fti's post.
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>>>>Passengers already booked on Northwest flights next fall will find those flights automatically converted to Delta flights, with passengers keeping the same seats and meals.
For flights in Fall there won't already be seat assignments - - though those seat assignments on the new DL metal would suddenly be available for booking when the conversion happens, wouldn't they? (Curious particularly since I already have three flights booked in Oct 2010).
For flights in Fall there won't already be seat assignments - - though those seat assignments on the new DL metal would suddenly be available for booking when the conversion happens, wouldn't they? (Curious particularly since I already have three flights booked in Oct 2010).
Dec 16, 2009, 8:19 pm
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Can you tell us what you base that comment on? I needed to have an 012 ticket exchanged for an 006 ticket at the ATL airport a few months ago. Not sure why they had to do that, but I couldn't check in online or at the kiosk. It took all of 2-3 minutes for the agent at the counter to do the "exchange" and issue me a new ticket number and new boarding pass. Very easy actually. I assume it will only get easier as the systems migrate more fully to one system.
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I was under the impression it is actually a multi step process. It would be helpful if someone with more info could tell us what to specifically expect during the conversion process.
1) Starting Jan. 1, all mainline flights will be "Operated by Delta Air Lines" Flights with on legacy NW metal, will now be Delta. All flights booked with NW code will now be listed as "Operated by Delta Air Lines" on the reservations, tickets, etc. (Regional flights will continue to be operated by the respective carrier)
2) Starting the end of Jan. the NW code will begin to be phased out. This will include flipping the NW code to the DL code on flights, working from the future to current. Existing reservations will be updated with the new airline code. (Most likely will go from NW 2311 to DL 2311) Like today, DL flights can be booked on 006 or 012
3) At some point, 012 reservations will be converted to 006 reservations.
4) At some point, nwa.com will eventually be taken down and redirect to delta.com
1) Starting Jan. 1, all mainline flights will be "Operated by Delta Air Lines" Flights with on legacy NW metal, will now be Delta. All flights booked with NW code will now be listed as "Operated by Delta Air Lines" on the reservations, tickets, etc. (Regional flights will continue to be operated by the respective carrier)
2) Starting the end of Jan. the NW code will begin to be phased out. This will include flipping the NW code to the DL code on flights, working from the future to current. Existing reservations will be updated with the new airline code. (Most likely will go from NW 2311 to DL 2311) Like today, DL flights can be booked on 006 or 012
3) At some point, 012 reservations will be converted to 006 reservations.
4) At some point, nwa.com will eventually be taken down and redirect to delta.com
Dec 16, 2009, 9:11 pm
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