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Marylou Jul 5, 2009 10:17 am
Can somebody decipher this fare code?
 
MA00UPRJ

jbatl Jul 5, 2009 11:14 am
Well, it's an M fare, with no advance purchase. That's about the extent of my familiarity with fare basis. If you can give me a city pair, I can post the rules.

OT, what's the code used to put a long piece of text in it's own scroll box?

clarence5ybr Jul 5, 2009 11:14 am
My guess is an M fare that books into First (A). That's what the "MA00UP" part implies--I can't figure out what the different letters at the end of these fares mean, though (e.g., what does "NA" mean versus "RJ" in the last two spaces).

jbatl Jul 5, 2009 11:15 am
Originally Posted by clarence5ybr (Post 12015631)
My guess is an M fare that books into First (A). That's what the "MA00UP" part implies
Ahh, yes. I missed the UP.

wijomas Jul 5, 2009 11:21 am
Code:
ECONOMY UNRESTRICTED

[RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS]
EXCURSION FARES APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/COACH
CLASS SERVICE. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS SEATS ARE LIMITED.

[ELIGIBILITY]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[DAY/TIME]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SEASONALITY]
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[FLIGHT APPLICATION]
FOR TRAVEL ON/BEFORE 30JUL09 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE
OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 1334 DL FLIGHTS 1400 THROUGH 5899
DL FLIGHTS 5931 THROUGH 6949 DL FLIGHTS 7550 THROUGH 8899 DL FLIGHTS
8940 THROUGH 9124 DL FLIGHTS 9285 THROUGH 9949 DL FLIGHTS 9955 THROUGH
9999 IN COMBINATION WITH ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY DL FLIGHT.
FOR TRAVEL ON/BEFORE 30JUL09 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE
OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 1334 DL FLIGHTS 1400 THROUGH
5899 DL FLIGHTS 5931 THROUGH 6949 DL FLIGHTS 7550 THROUGH 8899
DL FLIGHTS 8940 THROUGH 9124 DL FLIGHTS 9285 THROUGH 9949 DL FLIGHTS
9955 THROUGH 9999. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. 1.
NO DELTA SHUTTLE. 2. NO CO FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 31JUL09 THE FARE COMPONENT
MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 1334
DL FLIGHTS 1400 THROUGH 5899 DL FLIGHTS 5931 THROUGH 8899 DL FLIGHTS
8940 THROUGH 9949 DL FLIGHTS 9955 THROUGH 9999 IN COMBINATION WITH
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY DL FLIGHT. FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 31JUL09
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHTS
1 THROUGH 1334 DL FLIGHTS 1400 THROUGH 5899 DL FLIGHTS 5931 THROUGH
8899 DL FLIGHTS 8940 THROUGH 9949 DL FLIGHTS 9955 THROUGH 9999.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. 1. NO DELTA SHUTTLE.
2. NO CO

[ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS
ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. STANDBY
IS NOT PERMITTED. SAME DAY CONFIRM/SDC - PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED
RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY CONFIRM EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY FLIGHTS
BETWEEN SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION/ STOPOVER POINTS.  NEW ITINERARY MAY
NOT BE CONFIRMED MORE THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR TO DEPARTURE TIME OF NEW OUTBOUND
FLIGHT. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST BE VALID FOR ORIGINAL FARE PURCHASED.
SEE PENALTIES/VOLUNTARY CHANGES FOR COMPLETE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS.

[MINIMUM STAY]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[MAXIMUM STAY]
NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[STOPOVERS]
STOPOVERS ARE NOT PERMITTED AT INTERMEDIATE POINTS.

[TRANSFERS]
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO JRB/TSS AIRPORT. NO TRANSFERS
PERMITTED. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT. 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ANY
COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING - 2 ONLINE ON DL. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[COMBINATIONS]
ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE
ALL FARE COMBINATIONS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER
DL/NW/AF/AZ/KL/OK OR FOR CARRIER AS. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT
CIRCLE TRIPS/END-ON-END FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON
A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS A MAXIMUM
OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS -TO
FORM MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE BREAK POINTS
PERMITTED. END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE
ALL FARE COMPONENTS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE
FOR CARRIER DL/NW/ CO/UA/AA/AS OR FOR CARRIER F9/AC/YX/HA/US/9K IN ANY
RULE AND TARIFF. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT - BWI-WAS  FLL-MIA  LAX-BUR  LAX-ONT  LAX-SNA NYC-EWR  OAK-SFO
 OAK-SJC  SFO-SJC

[BLACKOUT DATES]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[SURCHARGES]
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER
FARE COMPONENT. IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA HOU. MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER
SURCHARGE OF USD 1.40 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

[ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SALES RESTRICTIONS]
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY
PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER.  CONTACT CARRIER
FOR DETAILS.

[PENALTIES]
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -CHANGES ARE PERMITTED
ANYTIME -ALL TKTS MUST BE REISSUED -CHANGES RESULTING IN A HIGHER FARE
MUST BE ADD COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF REISSUE -IF THE CHANGE RESULTS
IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE MAY BE REFUNDED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM
OF PAYMENT WITHOUT A CHANGE FEE -SAME DAY CONFIRM/SDC- PSGRS HOLDING
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TKTS MAY CONFIRM TRAVEL FOR AN EARLIER/LATER
SAME DAY DL NONSTOP AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHT/S BETWEEN THE SAME
ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS AT NO CHARGE. NOTE - A. SEAT INVENTORY
MUST BE AVAILABLE IN THE CABIN APPLICABLE TO THE FARE CHARGED. B. CHANGES
PERMITTED TO OUTBOUND OR CONTINUING/ RETURN FLIGHTS C. FLIGHTS/S
AND ROUTING MUST BE APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE CHARGED D. IF THE REQUESTED
CHANGE IS NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE PURCHASED IE INVAILD ROUTING/
AIRPORT/FLIGHT NUMBER/DEPARTURE TIME/ETC- THE CUSTOMER MAY UPGRADE
TO A FARE THAT DOES PERMIT THOSE CHANGES USING NORMAL REISSUE PROCEDURES
AND PAYING ANY FARE DIFFERENCE E. IF THE CUSTOMER REQUESTS THE
CHANGE MORE THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR TO THE NEW FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME THE
CUSTOMER CAN CONFIRM ON A DIFFERENT FLIGHT ON THE SAME DAY OF TICKETED
TRAVEL PAYING ANY APPLICABLE FARE DIFFERENCE TICKET REISSUE PROCEDURES
I.CHANGES TO OUTBOUND PORTION OF UNUSED TKTS A. ISSUE A NEW TKT -
CANCEL AND START OVER B. MUST USE CURRENT FARES C. VERIFY ALL RULES
D. VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW
TICKET II.CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN OF UNUSED TKTS A.ATTEMPT TO KEEP
THE FARES AS TICKETED -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
COMPONENT -MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS TICKETED FOR
ALL FARE COMPONENTS -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF THE
ORIGINAL TKT ISSUE -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED B. REPRICE
KEEPING OUTBOUND FARES AND REPLACING CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS
USING HISTORICAL FARES -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF ORIGINAL
TKT ISSUE -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED INCLUDING FARE
COMBINABILITY C. ISSUE A NEW TKT - CANCEL AND START OVER -MUST USE CURRENT
FARES/VERIFY ALL RULES -VALUE OF ORIGINAL TKT MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD
PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET III. CHANGES TO PARTIALLY USED TKTS NOTE
- MUST COMPLETE TRAVEL BY 1 YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL TKT ISSUE DATE A.ATTEMPT
TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION
OF ANY FARE COMPONENT -MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS
TICKETED FOR ALL FARE COMPONENTS -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL TKT ISSUE -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY B. REPRICE KEEPING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE
COMPONENTS AND REPLACE UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL FARES
-MAY CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE COMPONENT EXCEPT FLOWN
FARE COMPONENTS -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF THE
ORIGINAL TKT ISSUE -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED INCLUDING FARE
COMBINABILITY C.REPRICE REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
WITH HISTORICAL FARE/S IN AN EQUAL OR HIGHER BOOKING CLASS AND REPLACE
UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL FARES -MAY CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION
OF ANY FARE COMPONENT EXCEPT FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS -USE
HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL TKT ISSUE -ALL
OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY -REPLACEMENT
FARES FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE
AND BOOKING CLASS THAN THE ORIGINAL TKTD FARE -USE BOOKING CLASS
HIERARCHY WHEN REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS THE HIERARCHY
IS ECONOMY CLASS - Y B M H Q K L U T BUSINESS CLASS - J C D I FIRST
CLASS - F A D. ISSUE A NEW TICKET -ORIGINAL TICKET HAS NO RESIDUAL
VALUE -CALCULATE NEW TICKET USING CURRENT FARES -VALIDATE ALL RULES
CANCELLATIONS  PER TICKET CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR LOST TICKET. NOTE - TEXT
BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED
FOR MILITARY PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S.
GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169.

[HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS]
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

[TICKET ENDORSEMENTS]
TICKET ENDORSEMENT NOT REQUIRED.

[CHILDREN DISCOUNTS]
1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO CHARGE. TICKET DESIGNATOR
- IN00. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT PSGR. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR.

[TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[AGENT DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[FARE BY RULE]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[GROUPS]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[TOURS]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[DEPOSITS]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VOLUNTARY CHANGES]
ENTER RD*31 OR RD LINE NUM *31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.

[NEGOTIATED FARES]
NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

Originally Posted by jbatl (Post 12015629)
OT, what's the code used to put a long piece of text in it's own scroll box?
If you mean like the above, then it's [ CODE ] [ / CODE ] (without the spaces) :)

SLC777RES Jul 5, 2009 11:23 am
Originally Posted by clarence5ybr (Post 12015631)
My guess is an M fare that books into First (A). That's what the "MA00UP" part implies--I can't figure out what the different letters at the end of these fares mean, though (e.g., what does "NA" mean versus "RJ" in the last two spaces).
The R in "RJ" is for Refundable or Un-restricted

Herb687 Jul 5, 2009 11:23 am
Originally Posted by Marylou (Post 12015417)
MA00UPRJ
Well M is meaningless in this case since the "UP" indicates this is a first-for-coach instant upgrade type fare so the booking class is going to be different from the first letter of the fare basis code.

Does the "A" indicate the true booking class of A? Possibly. Although other carriers' .UP fares don't use this convention.

The "00" likely advance purchase; in this case zero. So this is a walkup fare (subject, of course, to the inventory being available).

The "R" likely indicates refundable. An "N" in this position would normally indicate a non-refundable fare.

As for the terminating "J" this is pure speculation but it could have some internal meaning within DL Pricing in terms of alerting them to which pricing structure group it falls under (specific LCC fare structures, surcharge applicability, etc.)

SLC777RES Jul 5, 2009 11:31 am
M is not completely meaningless.

As many FT'ers will attest, M is significant, particularly in an Irop when you're flight cancels and the next flight is an RJ or sold out in F and DL rebooks you in Y and claims it owes you zero compensation for the down-grade. This happens at all the legacies that offer these UP type fares.

Marylou Jul 5, 2009 11:36 am
It was the OOUP that got me. I've had YUP, QUP, BUP but hadn't seen this one.
It's a MSY-ATL-MSY trip, booked for August.

Herb687 Jul 5, 2009 11:38 am
Originally Posted by SLC777RES (Post 12015705)
M is not completely meaningless.

As many FT'ers will attest, M is significant, particularly in an Irop when you're flight cancels and the next flight is an RJ or sold out in F and DL rebooks you in Y and claims it owes you zero compensation for the down-grade. This happens at all the legacies that offer these UP type fares.
But how is that any different than a BUP or KUP fare? It's the "UP" part that allows the above to happen, not the first character of the fare basis code.

SLC777RES Jul 5, 2009 11:40 am
You're right.

M does indicate a price relativity tho, more expensive than a QH but less expensive than YB

Herb687 Jul 5, 2009 11:41 am
Originally Posted by Marylou (Post 12015721)
It was the OOUP that got me. I've had YUP, QUP, BUP but hadn't seen this one.
It's a MSY-ATL-MSY trip, booked for August.
The 00 (digits, not letters) indicates advance purchase. None, in the case of this fare.

SLC777RES Jul 5, 2009 11:42 am
Originally Posted by Marylou (Post 12015721)
It was the OOUP that got me. I've had YUP, QUP, BUP but hadn't seen this one.
It's a MSY-ATL-MSY trip, booked for August.
I like Herb's interpretation

Originally Posted by Herb687 (Post 12015663)
The "00" likely advance purchase; in this case zero. So this is a walkup fare (subject, of course, to the inventory being available).


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