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vatraveler Nov 12, 2008 4:56 am

DL Shuttle - Increase in E75 Departures
 
Up to half of DL Shuttle departures will be served by the E75 on any given day starting in January. Ugh.

:mad:

sxf24 Nov 12, 2008 6:38 am

What's the problem with this? With the elimination of the single-class MD-88, the E-175 actually offers larger seats and faster boarding/deplaning.

avidflyer Nov 12, 2008 6:50 am


Originally Posted by sxf24 (Post 10727332)
What's the problem with this? With the elimination of the single-class MD-88, the E-175 actually offers larger seats and faster boarding/deplaning.

Do the DL 175's have a First Class cabin like NW?

mersk862 Nov 12, 2008 7:39 am


Originally Posted by avidflyer (Post 10727399)
Do the DL 175's have a First Class cabin like NW?

Yes, same cabin configuration as NW's at 12F/64Y.

Makes sense too, I've never been on a midday Shuttle that's been all that full.

andymo99 Nov 12, 2008 7:59 am

Looks like this affects LGA-DCA, and not LGA-BOS.

MikeBU Nov 12, 2008 12:31 pm

Give me the E75 any day... best aircraft going right now.

adammarcw Nov 13, 2008 4:42 pm

Bigger Issue- Shuttle America?
 
Does Delta even fly E75s? I thought only Shuttle America did.
Does this mean Delta outsourcing the "Delta Shuttle" to Shuttle America?
I fly the Delta Shuttle fairly often, but sometimes flyout of JFK to BOS because of ticket cost. Today i paid 150 bucks instead of 400 for the LGA flight. Its really not the same level of service. Isn't shuttle america who delta was trying to cut for breach on contract for being late something like 80% of the time?

mersk862 Nov 13, 2008 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by adammarcw (Post 10747650)
Isn't shuttle america who delta was trying to cut for breach on contract for being late something like 80% of the time?

That was Freedom, who flies ERJ-145s and CRJ-900s for DL.

monitor Nov 13, 2008 6:16 pm

I'm a regular on the DCA shuttle and will have no complaints if they put me on a 175. They are very good, very comfortable airplanes and if they have the NY shuttle crews, so much the better. However, the Republic seniors who work those flights are also very good so I doubt if there would be any perceptible fall-off of service.

avidflyer Nov 13, 2008 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 10748098)
I'm a regular on the DCA shuttle and will have no complaints if they put me on a 175. They are very good, very comfortable airplanes and if they have the NY shuttle crews, so much the better. However, the Republic seniors who work those flights are also very good so I doubt if there would be any perceptible fall-off of service.

Plus they have that "new plane smell"!

adammarcw Nov 13, 2008 7:38 pm

Missing my point..
 
The Delta shuttle is operated by delta.
Does delta operate any E75's? As far as I can tell, It's not currently a plane they own.

So my question: is the shuttle switching to a delta connection?
If it is, I don't think you won't see the same FA's.
UPDATE:
Okay I just looked myself, the flights will be operated by Shuttle America.

and thank you mersk862, I was mistaken.
Regarless, they both leave from Gates 23-25, which has to be the worst gate (for on an on time departure) in the history of aviation.

vatraveler Nov 14, 2008 9:33 pm

Freedom was atrocious. Comair has taken over those DCA-JFK departures - a world of difference.

BF263533 Nov 15, 2008 12:26 am

No middle seats!

The MD 88 has 1 middle seats per row, and the Boeings have two middle seats per row.

The Boeings are based on a 1950's design.

The MD -88 are based on a 1960's design.

175s are the peak of seat width comfort. The decline has started with the Boeing 787, which will have 9 across in coach in a plane that is 16 inches more narrow than the 777 that has 9 across.

vatraveler Nov 15, 2008 6:35 am

I get the point about E75s being newish and much more comfortable. However, it is still an RJ, and I loved all the space in the MD-88s. The chances of no seatmate are greatly diminished.

avidflyer Nov 15, 2008 9:10 am


Originally Posted by vatraveler (Post 10754971)
I get the point about E75s being newish and much more comfortable. However, it is still an RJ, and I loved all the space in the MD-88s. The chances of no seatmate are greatly diminished.

With the merger the chance of no seat-mate will be pipe dream anyway. As DL tweaks the routes for maximum LF there will be loads of Golds and Silvers and likely many plats shoe-horned in the back. One thing NW did right was understand and manipulate load factor. In the last year I can not remember a flight that was not just about full. It was how NW turned around and DL will surely adjust accordingly. In the end empty seats are bad for everyone though it is a pleasant surprise.


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