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jfulcher Feb 20, 2005 8:42 pm

I've taken 14 flights, but only 11 had a front cabin.. 2 were K fares, 1 Q fare, 1 D fare, and the rest LUT fares. So really with the one D fare, only 10 were upgradable, and I got upgrades on all 10. I also got upgrades on both of my DCA flights this week which are on Tues/Thursday during peak hours (Tuesday is peak this week because of presidents day - especially to DC - a lot of people have Monday off).. So I can't complain. 3/10 of those were gate lottery because I changed to earlier flights.

indufan Feb 20, 2005 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by Traveller
Yes I do, but what exactly has changed? Not my status....

PMs on LUT fares can be upgrade at 5 days before GMs and FOs get a chance. Looks like you are beating those people who beat you last year.

El Perro Feb 20, 2005 8:48 pm

all I know is it's a nightmare for nonrevs now. no more domestic first class for employees!

and the new rules guarantee that on many routes there are some unhappy elities because so many can list for an upgrade now. when there are only 5 seats available up front and 15 list for the upgrade then 2/3rds of those who think they are entitled to something end up with just the seat they paid for.

DeltaFlyingProf Feb 20, 2005 10:41 pm

I am 100% so far but out of only 4 flights to this day. I was 100% last year as well, so no change, but I like the fact that I do not have to wait until 24h in advance on the LUT fares.

For those who fly out of FL, my sympathy! One of my most common flight has become DEN-JFK. On that flight, a FO would get a 100% rate, as FC is never full.

pentop Feb 21, 2005 3:25 am

I'm quite happy with my upgrades
2 for 2 on a Z class upgrades over the Atlantic (PMUs ROCK!). 6 for 7 on domestic

vinnmann Feb 21, 2005 6:00 am

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BamaVol Feb 21, 2005 6:46 am

My lack of success as a GM so far this year. In all fairness, I was flying with the non-status Mrs on 2 of the T fares and might have been upgraded on either or both. What bugs me is 3/4 ug's have been the 27 minute ATL-BHM. No ug on a transcon Y or H. Oh, and only 2 cleared at the appointed time, the other 3 cleared at the gate.

YBM...1/2
HKQ...1/3
LUT....3/9

So, you have to ask yourself, am I better off than this time last year? I'd say I was having better luck as an FO last year in Q1 and don't expect any improvement in Q2.

shaef Feb 21, 2005 7:18 am

5/14. As a PM I'm not too thrilled with the system. I rarely get to book travel before 2-3 days out. Doesn't appear to me like they're holding back many seats. luckily, all my travel is east coast to/from ATL so not long hauls. Because upgrades are the most tangible benefit of PM for me and because of my lack of success, my loyalty factor is way down. I've taken an airtran flight for the first time this month, and booked on NW and United. Going for cheap....

indufan Feb 21, 2005 10:30 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol

So, you have to ask yourself, am I better off than this time last year? I'd say I was having better luck as an FO last year in Q1 and don't expect any improvement in Q2.

All other things being equal, Q2 upgrades should be slightly better. Why? Because on March 1, there will be a drop of people with Medallion status. As the year goes on, more people (maybe the same people or others) will get status back but the biggest drop off will be on March 1.

DLfan Feb 21, 2005 10:37 am

I'm 100 percent YTD and finished last year at 100 percent. For me, its a wash, but I do feel for those on the popular So. Florida routes.

El Perro Feb 21, 2005 10:44 am


Originally Posted by shaef
5/14. As a PM I'm not too thrilled with the system. I rarely get to book travel before 2-3 days out. Doesn't appear to me like they're holding back many seats. luckily, all my travel is east coast to/from ATL so not long hauls. Because upgrades are the most tangible benefit of PM for me and because of my lack of success, my loyalty factor is way down. I've taken an airtran flight for the first time this month, and booked on NW and United. Going for cheap....

shaef, am I correct in assuming you fly between JAX and ATL a lot? that is one of the worst - if not the worst - route to try and get an upgrade on. Delta flies 767s each way and nearly half the aircraft is elites it seems. My parents were both PM/MM and couldn't get upgraded on that route. They are something like 2 for their lifetimes.

miro Feb 21, 2005 3:03 pm

I am pretty happy GM camper - 100% on 9 upgradeable domestic segments. All of these either U or T fare, including dreaded MIA. 2 were gate lotteries, and the rest cleared well in advance. One gate lottery was for LAX-CVG, the other was for a MIA-ATL flight that I had to book less than 24 hrs in advance. My other transcon (CVG-LAX) cleared 1.5 days in advance.

0/4 on international segments though ;)

shaef Feb 21, 2005 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by El Perro
shaef, am I correct in assuming you fly between JAX and ATL a lot? that is one of the worst - if not the worst - route to try and get an upgrade on. Delta flies 767s each way and nearly half the aircraft is elites it seems. My parents were both PM/MM and couldn't get upgraded on that route. They are something like 2 for their lifetimes.

actually I have homes in ATL and JAX and originate in those places. I think it's just my routes--ATL-BOS, ATL-LIT, ATL-ORD, ATL-yada yada. too many PM's book outside of the 5 day window on those routes. I feel better knowing that I'm doing better than some people!

Pointfreak! Feb 21, 2005 3:20 pm

I am 6/6 in 2005 for eligible (non RJ) flights as a PM. ^

pitflyer Feb 21, 2005 3:28 pm

7/7 as Gold Medallion, all PIT-ATL or ATL-PIT. One cleared at gate. One coming up that hasn't cleared 3 days in advance.


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