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The logic of this would seem to be that once someone has 1MM, no other tiebreakers effectively matter since the chances of two people trying for an upgrade on the same flight have exactly the same number of lifetime miles is vanishingly small. Then having a Reserve card, etc. doesn't matter. Also, then why wouldn't DL use lifetime miles similarly as the (essentially final) tiebreaker for those who haven't yet reached 1MM. I'm inclined to believe that DL groups by 1MM, 2MM, etc. but this presumes that DL has thought through the logical underpinnings of their upgrade priority rules.
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Originally Posted by josephstern
(Post 36065012)
I actually have this situation coming up in a few weeks. I'm on a flight with another Diamond 1 MM, but I have some more MMs than he does. I'll try to remember to report back once we see the upgrade order.
And just to cement this in, it's in the notes on this page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...llion-upgrades "All other things being equal, Members who have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status. For Members who hold Million Miler Status, the Member with the higher number of lifetime flight miles will clear first." We're both between 1 MM and 2 MM but I'm higher. Just to add: he did purchase his ticket before me. Neither of us have a Reserve card. He also has more MQD than me. |
Originally Posted by josephstern
(Post 36092554)
OK - so it does matter. I was upgraded before my friend. Very surprising to have this exact situation, but it happened.
And just to cement this in, it's in the notes on this page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...llion-upgrades "All other things being equal, Members who have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status. For Members who hold Million Miler Status, the Member with the higher number of lifetime flight miles will clear first." We're both between 1 MM and 2 MM but I'm higher. Just to add: he did purchase his ticket before me. Neither of us have a Reserve card. He also has more MQD than me. |
Originally Posted by hhdl
(Post 36093305)
This would appear to be dispositive, assuming you weren't traveling on a corporate booking.
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Why in the heck did they list Million Miler as #3 - if Million Miler drives Medallion level - isn’t it more reasonable to list Million Miler at #1 with Medallion Level with an asterisk to explain Million Milers trump non million milers? Am I missing something? Million milers will always get the / any upgrades before anyone else. No? |
Not sure I understand the confusion, but Million Miler status and current Medallion status are related but completely independent.
I would guess that the majority of even DMs aren't Million Milers. I don't know how many years I was at DM status before I became MM. And you can definitely have a DM who isn't a MM and a GM who is, and the DM would have priority. |
Originally Posted by 18sas
(Post 36093464)
Not sure I understand the confusion, but Million Miler status and current Medallion status are related but completely independent.
I would guess that the majority of even DMs aren't Million Milers. I don't know how many years I was at DM status before I became MM. And you can definitely have a DM who isn't a MM and a GM who is, and the DM would have priority. |
Originally Posted by shoodawg
(Post 36093433)
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Why in the heck did they list Million Miler as #3 - if Million Miler drives Medallion level - isn’t it more reasonable to list Million Miler at #1 with Medallion Level with an asterisk to explain Million Milers trump non million milers? Am I missing something? Million milers will always get the / any upgrades before anyone else. No? DM MM bought C+ (ordered by lifetime miles) DM bought C+ (Reserve etc. tiebreaks) DM MM bought Main (ordered by lifetime miles; 3MM lands no worse than here) DM bought Main (Reserve etc.) PM MM bought C+ (ordered by lifetime miles) PM bought C+ (Reserve etc.) PM MM bought Main (ordered by lifetime miles; 2MM lands no worse than here) PM bought Main (Reserve etc.) GM MM bought C+ (ordered by lifetime miles) GM bought C+ (Reserve etc.) GM MM bought Main (ordered by lifetime miles; 1MM lands no worse than here) And so forth. |
Please forgive me. It now appears to me that a 3MM would now win vs. a DM.
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Originally Posted by shoodawg
(Post 36093608)
Please forgive me. It now appears to me that a 3MM would now win vs. a DM.
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Originally Posted by DrMilano
(Post 36093648)
”Win” what, when it’s 0 F available, a runner up prize? At the end of the day WFBF.
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Originally Posted by hhdl
(Post 36093501)
A comparatively small portion of actively flying Medallions are MM. Also note that non-MM who buys C+ gets the upgrade over MM who buys Main.
DM MM bought C+ (ordered by lifetime miles) DM bought C+ (Reserve etc. tiebreaks) DM MM bought Main (ordered by lifetime miles; 3MM lands no worse than here) DM bought Main (Reserve etc.) PM MM bought C+ (ordered by lifetime miles) PM bought C+ (Reserve etc.) PM MM bought Main (ordered by lifetime miles; 2MM lands no worse than here) PM bought Main (Reserve etc.) GM MM bought C+ (ordered by lifetime miles) GM bought C+ (Reserve etc.) GM MM bought Main (ordered by lifetime miles; 1MM lands no worse than here) And so forth. |
Originally Posted by shoodawg
(Post 36093608)
Please forgive me. It now appears to me that a 3MM would now win vs. a DM.
However, a 2MM PM would not beat a DM (though a 2MM who got 28k MQD would be ahead of DMs with less than 2MM). |
Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 36093731)
360 goes at the very top.
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Originally Posted by hhdl
(Post 36093795)
Not actually clear. 360 is not a Medallion status (DL is consistently careful to not refer to it as such, instead referring to "the 360 program").
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