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Originally Posted by mattp1987
(Post 31765723)
Sounds like OP is mostly buying international Y. I'd stick with a carrier where I could earn status for perks like preferred seating, lounge access (granted HND is a sad exception on DL), occasional op-ups, priority security, etc.
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Originally Posted by 1P
(Post 31765600)
Good luck with UA. This 1K and many others are leaving because UA have just decided to decimate their loyalty program. Your policy of using whichever carrier can give you the best price is now the one to go for.
Seems they are all equally meh at this time. |
Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68
(Post 31765765)
It's absolutely NOT an exception, DL doesn't supply 3rd party lounge access for elites ANYWHERE.
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
(Post 31765042)
NWA gave many free upgrades in J, when flying to/from NRT, informally. Always a nice surprise. Revenue and reward flights.
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
(Post 31765042)
NWA gave many free upgrades in J, when flying to/from NRT, informally. Always a nice surprise. Revenue and reward flights.
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Originally Posted by cre95
(Post 31765998)
And Northwest doesn't exist anymore. Maybe if they hadn't, they would have been the buyer rather than the seller on the transaction :D
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The reality in 2019 is that airlines, DL included, are making a lot of money. The industry is experiencing some of the best financial results in history.
When this happens, loyalty and rewards begin to get diluted. Even domestic upgrades are way down because DL found out how to sell those seats. DL revenue management team knows how to value loyalty in their overall business plan. If they were hurting for customers things would be different. |
Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 31765662)
I've posted this several times but yep - flying as a non-status traveler blows. I'm reminded of this every time I island hop in Hawaii on HA. And based on where I live now and with the GSA contracts being more split, I now often end up on another airline for work travel. Even with some of the additional military perks the airlines extend, traveling without status simply sucks. Despite the knocks it gets from those with higher status, even getting low-level status such as Silver Medallion is enough to take flying from miserable to bearable and even just getting an airline branded CC doesn't cover all the perks that even the lowest status levels come with.
Two weeks ago, I was flying PSC-SEA-KOA. Due to fog here in PSC, my flight over to SEA was delayed two hours, meaning I wouldn't make the connecting flight to KOA. The app and website were a mess, and so I called the GM reservations line. Within maybe 10 minutes, I was rerouted on the later Alaska flight the same day to KOA, and arrived only 2 hours later than my originally scheduled time. Had I been a no-name, no status flyer, I would have been out of luck, and probably wouldn't have made it on a flight for several more days. DL does a great job...not perfect, but I continue to be very satisfied with the level of service they provide me. I'll never go back...I'll always maintain at least Silver Medallion with Delta. |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 31765619)
....but sometimes I wonder if some people on here actually know what it is like to fly as a no status economy traveler.
Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 31765662)
I've posted this several times but yep - flying as a non-status traveler blows. I'm reminded of this every time I island hop in Hawaii on HA. And based on where I live now and with the GSA contracts being more split, I now often end up on another airline for work travel. Even with some of the additional military perks the airlines extend, traveling without status simply sucks. Despite the knocks it gets from those with higher status, even getting low-level status such as Silver Medallion is enough to take flying from miserable to bearable and even just getting an airline branded CC doesn't cover all the perks that even the lowest status levels come with.
Originally Posted by N174UA
(Post 31766132)
I couldn't agree more.....
I get it, some of the 30 year loyalty flyers are more bent out of shape, because back in the good ol' days everything was better. But the price of flying has come down to make it affordable for more people (non business travelers) too, no complaints about that? Gone are the days of half full 747's crossing the country with free everything. But I guess all things considered I can get across the country on vacation for a few hundred bucks, especially if I am paying, add a few pleasing loyalty perks and I am good. I for one hope more people drop loyalty. |
Originally Posted by cre95
(Post 31765998)
And Northwest doesn't exist anymore. Maybe if they hadn't, they would have been the buyer rather than the seller on the transaction :D
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Originally Posted by hnewman
(Post 31766007)
Very unlikely. You got the upgrade a boarding time. Not likely that they were going to sell it.
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Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68
(Post 31766456)
It was a merger, they were both bankrupt, which name survived wasn't indicative of much.
Originally Posted by wikipedia
The acquisition of Northwest Airlines was announced April 14, 2008. It was approved and consummated on October 29, 2008. Northwest continued to operate as a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta until December 31, 2009, when the Northwest Airlines operating certificate was merged into that of Delta.
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Originally Posted by defrosted
(Post 31766498)
I thought technically speaking Delta owned Northwest?
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The new United ff program tells you all you need to know. Airlines don t much care how often you fly they are all about how much you spend. If all you care about is the rewards program I would fly american. If you actually need customer service and you need to get places I would stick with Delta. But with airline consolidation the airlines don’t need loyalty from any but the highest revenue flyers.
I personally have had had better luck using my GUC than my AA SWU United I get the upgrade but when the flight doesn’t go the upgrade isn’t that valuable |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 31765619)
I can't disagree too much since this is what I do, but sometimes I wonder if some people on here actually know what it is like to fly as a no status economy traveler.
So relatively decent treatment as a nobody let me to spending more on flights with Delta, getting the credit card, and finally making Sliver for the first time this year while booking mostly V or V-adjacent fares. |
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