Fare frustration - SkyTeam fare way out of line with competition
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In addition, PE on AF is $1522 r/t from YVR 4/5-4/14. Easy way to get 150% MQMs and distance-based MQDs.
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That seems crazy unless there's some special event. What prices do you see for C+ and D1? SNN should be a fairly cheap leisure TATL route. [I associate that airport with charter flights.]
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I don’t mean to hijack the OP’s thread except to say I’m seeing similar high fares across the board for my trip to China in June. About a week ago they all increased by at least $300 and haven’t come down yet. ☹️ I wonder if it has to do with the government shutdown? I read somewhere that delta is losing money because of it.
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Surely DL expects the government shutdown to be over by June? If DL is optimizing their RM, I don't save how the current shutdown should cause DL to change its strategy for summer flights. It should be viewed as a fixed/sunk cost, which wouldn't normally impact optimal strategies.
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I don’t mean to hijack the OP’s thread except to say I’m seeing similar high fares across the board for my trip to China in June. About a week ago they all increased by at least $300 and haven’t come down yet. ☹️ I wonder if it has to do with the government shutdown? I read somewhere that delta is losing money because of it.
The seats are gone once the flight departs so it's far more likely they'd take one of these actions to at least cover their fixed costs by enticing a few leisure travelers (and maybe FTers looking for an MQM run) to jump off the fence and book that trip they'd been debating for a while.
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Not sure I would tie the two. The same way that a bad economy tends to lead to cheaper fares and more incentives to FFPs, you'd think that if they were feeling the pinch of the shutdown they'd drive big time fare sales to try and entice leisure travelers to fill in the void of government travelers (because the business travelers will go regardless and they can use the inflexible fare buckets to capture that already) or would offer FF incentives (e.g., double miles).
The seats are gone once the flight departs so it's far more likely they'd take one of these actions to at least cover their fixed costs by enticing a few leisure travelers (and maybe FTers looking for an MQM run) to jump off the fence and book that trip they'd been debating for a while.
The seats are gone once the flight departs so it's far more likely they'd take one of these actions to at least cover their fixed costs by enticing a few leisure travelers (and maybe FTers looking for an MQM run) to jump off the fence and book that trip they'd been debating for a while.
I sincerely hope that DL is doing free rebooking for those who miss flights due to TSA lines.
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SNN has limited service on Skyteam (no AMS/CDG flights), so there's only service from JFK. There's no way to get to SNN from MKE without a double-connect (due to no MKE-JFK service) and DL has limited married segment bucket availability on the various circuitous connecting options that are required for this route. You could fly MKE-LGA non-stop on a separate ticket and then shuttle over to JFK where you can get a V fare for $682 roundtrip. Or drive down to ORD (which does have JFK service) where you can get an X fare for $1044 roundtrip (as I mentioned upthread).
Last edited by xliioper; Jan 22, 2019 at 11:04 am