Dec 22, 2018, 7:15 pm
New Delta Boarding Process Jan 2019
Jan 16, 2019, 11:01 am
#331
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So out of curiosity, is it rude for an elite that has status and thus access to preferred seats to book their entire party into the preferred seats? Of course DL limits C+ to only 1 companion so one can't really get more than that without paying for it. But if I had a group of 3, 4, or more all traveling under my name, would it be rude of me to book, say, the entire exit row if it's labeled as "preferred"?
It's rude if you board during Premium or SkyPriority time and sneak a whole bunch of people with you who do not, on their own, have that same boarding rank.
If you actually book them into Comfort Plus or preferred seating, their tickets will already have improved boarding zones. Sky Priority for the Comfort Plus people for example. If their seat is in C+ you aren't sneaking them in, it's a part of their seat already.
Jan 16, 2019, 11:15 am
#332
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What? No, you misundertand I think.
It's rude if you board during Premium or SkyPriority time and sneak a whole bunch of people with you who do not, on their own, have that same boarding rank.
If you actually book them into Comfort Plus or preferred seating, their tickets will already have improved boarding zones. Sky Priority for the Comfort Plus people for example. If their seat is in C+ you aren't sneaking them in, it's a part of their seat already.
It's rude if you board during Premium or SkyPriority time and sneak a whole bunch of people with you who do not, on their own, have that same boarding rank.
If you actually book them into Comfort Plus or preferred seating, their tickets will already have improved boarding zones. Sky Priority for the Comfort Plus people for example. If their seat is in C+ you aren't sneaking them in, it's a part of their seat already.
So I ask again: if it’s rude to have others in my party board with me based on my status, is it rude to also select preferred seats for them when they otherwise wouldn’t be entitled to access preferred seating (such as the exit row).
Jan 16, 2019, 1:10 pm
#333
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Smells like troll in here
It's not rude to ask for favors and see if you can get people seated nicely
But when it's time to board, you each board according to whatever seat you are assigned and whatever zone that comes with. Except for the occasional +1.
Premium does not include the Midas touch. +3 or +4 is obnoxious.
It's not rude to ask for favors and see if you can get people seated nicely
But when it's time to board, you each board according to whatever seat you are assigned and whatever zone that comes with. Except for the occasional +1.
Premium does not include the Midas touch. +3 or +4 is obnoxious.
Last edited by flyerUSA; Jan 16, 2019 at 1:15 pm
Jan 16, 2019, 1:13 pm
#334
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Preferred seats don’t come with a higher zone. C+ is limited to one companion anyway (unless paying for it). But one can only select preferred seats if an elite or on the same reservation as an elite.
So I ask again: if it’s rude to have others in my party board with me based on my status, is it rude to also select preferred seats for them when they otherwise wouldn’t be entitled to access preferred seating (such as the exit row).
Jan 16, 2019, 1:27 pm
#335
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Smells like troll in here
It's not rude to ask for favors and see if you can get people seated nicely
But when it's time to board, you each board according to whatever seat you are assigned and whatever zone that comes with. Except for the occasional +1.
Premium does not include the Midas touch. +3 or +4 is obnoxious.
It's not rude to ask for favors and see if you can get people seated nicely
But when it's time to board, you each board according to whatever seat you are assigned and whatever zone that comes with. Except for the occasional +1.
Premium does not include the Midas touch. +3 or +4 is obnoxious.
See if you can answer that without reverting to calling those who don’t agree with you “trolls”.
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Jan 16, 2019, 1:45 pm
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When one member on the PNR is elite, getting multiple other companions seated in Preferred seating is not a "favor". Elites can put their entire party on that PNR into preferred seating. That's how the benefit is published. This is different than C+ and F upgrades in which an elite can only upgrade 1 companion. If you refuse to wise up on program rules once corrected, it is you who is trolling the forum (despite your accusations of trolling to others) by purposely continuing to post wrong information and remain ignorant just to try to defend your position. You haven't answered the question because you're trying to use false information and a false premise to answer the question, rather than answering the question with the facts as the program rules are written. Answer the question as the facts and rules of the program are written: if you view multiple companions "piggy-backing" off the status of an elite to board with priority as poor etiquette, do you also believe it's poor etiquette for an elite to put multiple (more than 1) companion in preferred seats as well? That's a simple yes or no question.
Jan 16, 2019, 1:50 pm
#338
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I'd be much more inclined to keep a bag under my seat if the airlines didn't keep cramming seats closer and closer together.
I've noticed at some non-US airports check in staff will put a special tag on the "personal item" containing instructions that it must be stored under a seat. I just deposit it in the first trash can I see and stow it overhead, since in my experience, OHBs are rarely full on international flights.
I've noticed at some non-US airports check in staff will put a special tag on the "personal item" containing instructions that it must be stored under a seat. I just deposit it in the first trash can I see and stow it overhead, since in my experience, OHBs are rarely full on international flights.
Jan 16, 2019, 2:22 pm
#339
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Indeed - airlines have created the situation where the space under the seat in front of one, has become essential as passenger space vs. baggage. I have zero problem whatsoever placing my backpack above me, right next to my roller bag and reserving the under seat space for my feet as flex room.
Jan 16, 2019, 3:02 pm
#340
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So out of curiosity, is it rude for an elite that has status and thus access to preferred seats to book their entire party into the preferred seats? Of course DL limits C+ to only 1 companion so one can't really get more than that without paying for it. But if I had a group of 3, 4, or more all traveling under my name, would it be rude of me to book, say, the entire exit row if it's labeled as "preferred"?
You didn't answer the question because you don't even know what you're talking about:
When one member on the PNR is elite, getting multiple other companions seated in Preferred seating is not a "favor". Elites can put their entire party on that PNR into preferred seating. That's how the benefit is published. This is different than C+ and F upgrades in which an elite can only upgrade 1 companion. If you refuse to wise up on program rules once corrected, it is you who is trolling the forum (despite your accusations of trolling to others) by purposely continuing to post wrong information and remain ignorant just to try to defend your position. You haven't answered the question because you're trying to use false information and a false premise to answer the question, rather than answering the question with the facts as the program rules are written. Answer the question as the facts and rules of the program are written: if you view multiple companions "piggy-backing" off the status of an elite to board with priority as poor etiquette, do you also believe it's poor etiquette for an elite to put multiple (more than 1) companion in preferred seats as well? That's a simple yes or no question.
When one member on the PNR is elite, getting multiple other companions seated in Preferred seating is not a "favor". Elites can put their entire party on that PNR into preferred seating. That's how the benefit is published. This is different than C+ and F upgrades in which an elite can only upgrade 1 companion. If you refuse to wise up on program rules once corrected, it is you who is trolling the forum (despite your accusations of trolling to others) by purposely continuing to post wrong information and remain ignorant just to try to defend your position. You haven't answered the question because you're trying to use false information and a false premise to answer the question, rather than answering the question with the facts as the program rules are written. Answer the question as the facts and rules of the program are written: if you view multiple companions "piggy-backing" off the status of an elite to board with priority as poor etiquette, do you also believe it's poor etiquette for an elite to put multiple (more than 1) companion in preferred seats as well? That's a simple yes or no question.
The original question - read up, friend - is:
"Regarding this boarding order, what is the proper etiquette and DL policy for having family members board with the family member of the highest priority? (when on different PNRs)."
WHEN ON DIFFERENT PNRS.
You are ranting about people on the SAME PNR.
Like I suggested prior, go do something else with your time, it will be healthy for you. Mwah.
Jan 16, 2019, 3:04 pm
#341
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You are malfunctioning.
The original question - read up, friend - is:
"Regarding this boarding order, what is the proper etiquette and DL policy for having family members board with the family member of the highest priority? (when on different PNRs)."
WHEN ON DIFFERENT PNRS.
You are ranting about people on the SAME PNR.
Like I suggested prior, go do something else with your time, it will be healthy for you. Mwah.
The original question - read up, friend - is:
"Regarding this boarding order, what is the proper etiquette and DL policy for having family members board with the family member of the highest priority? (when on different PNRs)."
WHEN ON DIFFERENT PNRS.
You are ranting about people on the SAME PNR.
Like I suggested prior, go do something else with your time, it will be healthy for you. Mwah.
Jan 16, 2019, 3:18 pm
#342
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You are malfunctioning.
The original question - read up, friend - is:
"Regarding this boarding order, what is the proper etiquette and DL policy for having family members board with the family member of the highest priority? (when on different PNRs)."
WHEN ON DIFFERENT PNRS.
You are ranting about people on the SAME PNR.
Like I suggested prior, go do something else with your time, it will be healthy for you. Mwah.
The original question - read up, friend - is:
"Regarding this boarding order, what is the proper etiquette and DL policy for having family members board with the family member of the highest priority? (when on different PNRs)."
WHEN ON DIFFERENT PNRS.
You are ranting about people on the SAME PNR.
Like I suggested prior, go do something else with your time, it will be healthy for you. Mwah.
Jan 16, 2019, 3:24 pm
#343
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If you're worried about whether a family traveling together boarding with an elite is on the same PNR or different PNRs and that being the factor on whether or not they should board together or not, you're the one who needs to go do something more healthy with your time. Obviously plenty of people travel on separate PNRs from their companions for plenty of valid reasons. Perhaps one ticket is booked for the Medallion for work through their company and the family is accompanying along on the trip but on a separate reservation for obvious reasons. Or perhaps a Medallion bought a cash ticket for themselves and used miles or a voucher for their family/companions which then puts them on separate tickets. Thankfully GAs and DL apply a little more common sense then you are right now when it comes to benefits across the entire travel experience. When it comes to boarding, you, as a bystander, unless you see the groups individual tickets, have no way of knowing whether that group or family boarding with an elite is all on one PNR or not. and if you're actually trying to do this, again, take your own advice and go do something more healthy with your time.
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Jan 18, 2019, 11:21 am
#344
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Delta changing boarding order January 23rd
Looks like Delta in changing their boarding process on January 23rd. I haven't flown Delta lately, but it looks like sky priority is being shuffled after Comfort Plus.
These images came from an email sent directly to myself as a Plat.
These images came from an email sent directly to myself as a Plat.
Jan 18, 2019, 11:23 am
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