Skipping last segment with checked bags on DL flight
Nov 25, 2018, 4:16 pm
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So would the old rules still apply? Is it an automated system or does the agent have to manually check it thru to JFK
Nov 25, 2018, 6:59 pm
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If over 6 but under 12 system will check through all the way. However as long as its,over 6 between flights you can ask it be short checked. Anything over 12 system will automatically short check.
Nov 25, 2018, 7:45 pm
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There is one set of rules that apply to your trip: the International CoC.
The system will FORCE you to pick up your bags at JFK because you have an 18 hour connection.
In my experience, the system won't even really recognize this as a connection - it will show up in the app as two separate segments and all they will be worried about on your day of travel from NAS is NAS-JFK.
You have nothing to worry about. Buy it now. And as Often1 says, watch your JFK-WAS flight the following day and if delays etc occur, follow up with them.
Nov 25, 2018, 8:24 pm
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What old rules are you referring to?
There is one set of rules that apply to your trip: the International CoC.
The system will FORCE you to pick up your bags at JFK because you have an 18 hour connection.
In my experience, the system won't even really recognize this as a connection - it will show up in the app as two separate segments and all they will be worried about on your day of travel from NAS is NAS-JFK.
You have nothing to worry about. Buy it now. And as Often1 says, watch your JFK-WAS flight the following day and if delays etc occur, follow up with them.
There is one set of rules that apply to your trip: the International CoC.
The system will FORCE you to pick up your bags at JFK because you have an 18 hour connection.
In my experience, the system won't even really recognize this as a connection - it will show up in the app as two separate segments and all they will be worried about on your day of travel from NAS is NAS-JFK.
You have nothing to worry about. Buy it now. And as Often1 says, watch your JFK-WAS flight the following day and if delays etc occur, follow up with them.
Thanks for all your help.
This may be pushing it, but what’s the chance i’ll be able to change the date of the second segment so that I can take it on a future date (months later)?
Nov 25, 2018, 9:43 pm
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you are right. On my delta it shows just NAS-JFK. When I open up the details then it shows the second segment as well.
Thanks for all your help.
This may be pushing it, but what’s the chance i’ll be able to change the date of the second segment so that I can take it on a future date (months later)?
Thanks for all your help.
This may be pushing it, but what’s the chance i’ll be able to change the date of the second segment so that I can take it on a future date (months later)?
It is good to be aware of it. But even if DL's auto VIPER system rebooks you - you can always call and make a single change from a qualifying IRROP event. You don't just have to accept what they rebook you on.
Nov 25, 2018, 11:02 pm
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You are welcome. There is a less than 0 % chance you can change the second segment months later. Maybe a day or two later at max - with a qualifying schedule change or IRROP - but otherwise Delta will absolutely not let you violate the "no stopovers" part of the fare rule to fly it that much later (and requesting this without IRROPs will draw attention to what you were doing in the first place)
It is good to be aware of it. But even if DL's auto VIPER system rebooks you - you can always call and make a single change from a qualifying IRROP event. You don't just have to accept what they rebook you on.
It is good to be aware of it. But even if DL's auto VIPER system rebooks you - you can always call and make a single change from a qualifying IRROP event. You don't just have to accept what they rebook you on.
Nov 26, 2018, 12:06 am
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Nov 26, 2018, 8:12 am
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Nov 26, 2018, 9:07 am
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However, you can always request to retrieve your bag upon landing. I have done it in AMS no problem, and would hope CDG would be similar (but I try to avoid as much as possible)
Once an agent and Red Coat messed up and wouldn't let me check to connecting point on a greater than 6 hour, international connection. I was able to get the bag retrieved in SLC on a connection (by speaking to a SLC Red Coat as soon as I deplaned), and they grabbed the bag and retagged it.
The original station got in touch and apologized for their employees not knowing and offered miles. Always a pain to have to quote the pg # of their CoC to have them follow a contract they wrote!
Dec 20, 2018, 10:06 pm
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I'm hesitant to make a new post with such a similar situation...
Wife and I are flying SJC - LAX - PPT on DL with the LAX - PPT leg codeshare on AF. On the return, I'd like to skip the final leg. Layover at LAX is 2hrs. The difference it seems with our situation is that PPT doesn't have the preclearance that NAS does (as here), so we'd conceivably be able to collect a checked bag after clearing customs at LAX, rip off the luggage tag, and exit the airport.
But I don't want to miss something. Any comments/thoughts are appreciated. Finally, any reason to go into the app and cancel the final leg or similar?
Wife and I are flying SJC - LAX - PPT on DL with the LAX - PPT leg codeshare on AF. On the return, I'd like to skip the final leg. Layover at LAX is 2hrs. The difference it seems with our situation is that PPT doesn't have the preclearance that NAS does (as here), so we'd conceivably be able to collect a checked bag after clearing customs at LAX, rip off the luggage tag, and exit the airport.
But I don't want to miss something. Any comments/thoughts are appreciated. Finally, any reason to go into the app and cancel the final leg or similar?
Dec 21, 2018, 3:01 am
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I'm hesitant to make a new post with such a similar situation...
Wife and I are flying SJC - LAX - PPT on DL with the LAX - PPT leg codeshare on AF. On the return, I'd like to skip the final leg. Layover at LAX is 2hrs. The difference it seems with our situation is that PPT doesn't have the preclearance that NAS does (as here), so we'd conceivably be able to collect a checked bag after clearing customs at LAX, rip off the luggage tag, and exit the airport.
But I don't want to miss something. Any comments/thoughts are appreciated. Finally, any reason to go into the app and cancel the final leg or similar?
Wife and I are flying SJC - LAX - PPT on DL with the LAX - PPT leg codeshare on AF. On the return, I'd like to skip the final leg. Layover at LAX is 2hrs. The difference it seems with our situation is that PPT doesn't have the preclearance that NAS does (as here), so we'd conceivably be able to collect a checked bag after clearing customs at LAX, rip off the luggage tag, and exit the airport.
But I don't want to miss something. Any comments/thoughts are appreciated. Finally, any reason to go into the app and cancel the final leg or similar?
Dec 21, 2018, 8:31 am
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I'm hesitant to make a new post with such a similar situation...
Wife and I are flying SJC - LAX - PPT on DL with the LAX - PPT leg codeshare on AF. On the return, I'd like to skip the final leg. Layover at LAX is 2hrs. The difference it seems with our situation is that PPT doesn't have the preclearance that NAS does (as here), so we'd conceivably be able to collect a checked bag after clearing customs at LAX, rip off the luggage tag, and exit the airport.
But I don't want to miss something. Any comments/thoughts are appreciated. Finally, any reason to go into the app and cancel the final leg or similar?
Wife and I are flying SJC - LAX - PPT on DL with the LAX - PPT leg codeshare on AF. On the return, I'd like to skip the final leg. Layover at LAX is 2hrs. The difference it seems with our situation is that PPT doesn't have the preclearance that NAS does (as here), so we'd conceivably be able to collect a checked bag after clearing customs at LAX, rip off the luggage tag, and exit the airport.
But I don't want to miss something. Any comments/thoughts are appreciated. Finally, any reason to go into the app and cancel the final leg or similar?
The main caveat when doing this is that you could run into IRROPS and get re-routed to a different connection point. That seems like an extremely unlikely possibility in this case, so you should be fine.
Dec 21, 2018, 11:23 am
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Don't cancel the final leg. There's always the possibility it gets canceled and you can collect a partial refund.
The main caveat when doing this is that you could run into IRROPS and get re-routed to a different connection point. That seems like an extremely unlikely possibility in this case, so you should be fine.
The main caveat when doing this is that you could run into IRROPS and get re-routed to a different connection point. That seems like an extremely unlikely possibility in this case, so you should be fine.
I'll be sure to leave the final leg.