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Originally Posted by ikwia
(Post 30426358)
I happen to like this system on AA (admittedly, it works particularly well for me, but even aside from that, it seems fair and reasonable).
The worst system imho is on UA, where Premier 1K get to pre-board (and that's often quite a few people) and then FC is in the same group as Platinum and Gold. So if you are in FC and aren't at the gate to line up well ahead of time, you're in for a lengthy wait to board (at least given the elite loads on the flights I've taken recently). There's a reason United boards most narrowbodies T-30 instead of Delta's ridiculous T-40. |
Originally Posted by AntonS
(Post 30423465)
I never understood why you need special boarding groups like Sky, First class, etc when you can just assign boarding zones/group numbers accordingly. For example:
Group 1: First class, DM, PM Group 2: Gold, silver, Amex Group 3: ..... Group 4: ..... Depending on aircraft and number of elites, boarding groups can be assigned differently. |
Gosh, is boarding order really that big of a deal in life?
For me, I am not too eager to get on board and sit in a crappy seat - even in Business class. Sometimes I will purposely get on last and just hand my carry on to the attendant - to 'attend' to it. And on Southwest and other airlines without assigned seating I never get on first. I prefer to choose who I sit next to rather than the take a chance with the 'smelly person lottery.' |
Sometimes I will purposely get on last and just hand my carry on to the attendant - to 'attend' to it. |
Originally Posted by vincentharris
(Post 30425964)
Not sure why this post was moved here? Seems not relevant to this conversation at all.
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Unless I am traveling with a carry on suitcase (I almost always check my bag), I will wait in the lounge as long as possible and board at the end. I don’t care to be on the plane any longer than I have to. If I am traveling with a suitcase and need the OH space, then I will board with Sky/Prem depending if I’ve been upgraded or not. That said, I think Sky would be a lot better if it were just Plats, Golds and STE+ and C+ pax without status boarded after. Adding C+ to Sky on top of PM, GM and STE+ makes it an absolute zoo. It’s really my only complaint with DL. |
Originally Posted by flamingocrazyfl
(Post 30427566)
Unless I am traveling with a carry on suitcase (I almost always check my bag), I will wait in the lounge as long as possible and board at the end. I don’t care to be on the plane any longer than I have to. If I am traveling with a suitcase and need the OH space, then I will board with Sky/Prem depending if I’ve been upgraded or not. That said, I think Sky would be a lot better if it were just Plats, Golds and STE+ and C+ pax without status boarded after. Adding C+ to Sky on top of PM, GM and STE+ makes it an absolute zoo. It’s really my only complaint with DL. What I absolutely hate is the hand holding of the zone placards in Asia, without any discernable order except "this looks like a good spot". Always a pain in the butt to find my spot which is usually PREM or SKY, but I have to climb on top of folks to find it. As an aside , I get panic attacks if I'm sitting on the tarmac and the air isn't flowing in a hot environ. On one trip I had the brilliant idea to just forfiet my C+ sky zone and board last. Except I got stuck 2nd to last in the tunnel with zero air flow, and the line at a complete standstill. Is this what goes on in zones 2/3.. Suffice to say, I always board with an ice cold bottle of water. Bringing up the rear ain't fun. |
Originally Posted by ethernal
(Post 30424724)
Are you saying Zone 1 is not supposed to board through the Priority lane? They are obviously supposed to wait till they are called, but they are asked to use the Priority lane (assuming no pillars). Or at least that used to be the case. Delta still considers Zone 1 to be priority (you will never be Zone 1 if you are in Main Cabin and do not have something else - Silver status, partner status, credit card, etc). As I mentioned in my post, it seems a little silly to call "Zone 1" priority when over half the plane has already boarded before Zone 1 even starts, but that's besides the point.
I'm not talking about boarding order here, I'm talking about general gate crowding. |
Originally Posted by AeRoSpaceman
(Post 30454142)
Here in PNS there are no pillars. Only to lanes "PREM/Sky Priority(left) and General Boarding(right)" As soon as the last Sky Priority customer is thru that lane it is roped off and then Group 1 and the rest goes thru the General Boarding lane.
On the flip side, in PHX last Monday they never opened the general boarding side, everyone just kept flowing through the SP lane. Which did cut down on gate lice, but isn't the spirit of the two-lane system. |
Originally Posted by jj243
(Post 30425628)
Until Delta actually enforces the rules, this is all moot anyway. It would be much easier if the system simply refuses boarding passes when passengers try to board out of turn. It would eliminate the awkwardness the agent must feel asking people to step aside to wait for the proper zone. And once that is obvious, people will self regulate for fear of certain embarrassment- since the machine won't look the other way. |
Originally Posted by gypsycsc
(Post 30454224)
This! I'm fine with the boarding order as it's presently done, but please, Delta, enforce the boarding zones! Most people scan their own phones so the GA never even sees it. It's just way too easy to board whenever you want, and a number of people seem to take advantage of that.
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Originally Posted by AeRoSpaceman
(Post 30454142)
Here in PNS there are no pillars. Only to lanes "PREM/Sky Priority(left) and General Boarding(right)" As soon as the last Sky Priority customer is thru that lane it is roped off and then Group 1 and the rest goes thru the General Boarding lane.
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Originally Posted by Tine Rod
(Post 30453779)
What I absolutely hate is the hand holding of the zone placards in Asia, without any discernable order except "this looks like a good spot". Always a pain in the butt to find my spot which is usually PREM or SKY, but I have to climb on top of folks to find it.
If you had said JFK, I would have agreed :) They tell people D1/SKY on one side and everyone else on the other but within those two groups it's still somewhat undifferentiated mess. |
Originally Posted by Gig103
(Post 30454243)
It would be cool if the BP scanner was tied into the zones, and would deny anyone who isn't eligible yet. Bonus: If you cheat, you are downgraded to Zone 4.
I do ask in advance, though, and have never been told it's a problem. The most, shall we say, "interesting" boarding experience I had was on Emirates out of DXB. Emirates boards by letter: A, B, C... Anyway, they had done the pre-board and were doing group A and there was a not-small number of travelers who rushed the gate to board, who were turned away because they were not the correct zone. One couple insisted on arguing with the gate agent, but she stood firm. Then she called group B and the whole scene played out again (I think the couple was group E). By the time my group got called, this couple was staring daggers at everyone who was allowed to board before they were. |
Originally Posted by Tine Rod
(Post 30453779)
What I absolutely hate is the hand holding of the zone placards in Asia, without any discernable order except "this looks like a good spot". Always a pain in the butt to find my spot which is usually PREM or SKY, but I have to climb on top of folks to find it.
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