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Ysitincoach Nov 12, 2018 6:31 pm

Getting in before this thread is locked, Delta doesn't care about any status other than Diamond, and at that they really only show their love in menial ways.

What Delta really needs to do with the new stanchion cattle zones is delineate a clear position for pre-boards at the gate before having ACAA pax being run over by the F/DM boarding lice.

jdrtravel Nov 12, 2018 7:28 pm

Am I the only one who is not experiencing SP boarding as a cattle call?

TheHorta Nov 12, 2018 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by jdrtravel (Post 30423416)
Am I the only one who is not experiencing SP boarding as a cattle call?

Pigs don't know pigs stink? :D

ethernal Nov 12, 2018 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by jdrtravel (Post 30423416)
Am I the only one who is not experiencing SP boarding as a cattle call?

Any airport without pillars is a disaster. Don't know if cattle call is the right name for it, but it's definitely a pretty painful exercise swimming through crowds to board. On a 739 with 90 people on the upgrade list (pretty common) that means a minimum of 110 people (90 status people + 20 people in F) board through the SKY lane. Add in at least 30 people with the credit card and you're at 140 people - that's about 80% of the plane boarding through the SKY lane.

AntonS Nov 12, 2018 7:50 pm

I never understood why you need special boarding groups like Sky, First class, etc when you can just assign boarding zones/group numbers accordingly. For example:

Group 1: First class, DM, PM
Group 2: Gold, silver, Amex
Group 3: .....
Group 4: .....

Depending on aircraft and number of elites, boarding groups can be assigned differently.

MSPeconomist Nov 12, 2018 7:56 pm

If DL really cared about incentives, only DMs with paid FC ticket would board in PREM.

I also like the idea of a cutoff based on MQDs as long as the magic number is just below my MQDs.

awayIgo Nov 12, 2018 8:10 pm

[QUOTE=Qwkynuf;30422822]Alphabetically, by the 3rd letter in your last name. If you don't have 3 letters in your last name, you don't get to board -

Nooooo, I think it should be by the 4th letter in your last name! (my 4th letter, just happens to be /a/ but I am NOT thinking of myself, ---honest!) :D

MSPeconomist Nov 12, 2018 8:13 pm

First letter of last name would mean that Ed Bastion boards almost first, but behind Richard Anderson.

jdrtravel Nov 12, 2018 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by ethernal (Post 30423434)
On a 739 with 90 people on the upgrade list (pretty common) .

This is not common in my experience, but perhaps it is just the routes that I fly. Also, remember that not everyone on the upgrade list gets Sky Priority boarding (FO's and others).

ethernal Nov 12, 2018 9:22 pm


Originally Posted by jdrtravel (Post 30423539)
This is not common in my experience, but perhaps it is just the routes that I fly. Also, remember that not everyone on the upgrade list gets Sky Priority boarding (FO's and others).

Yes, they are not SKY, but they board through the "priority lane" and not General Boarding (hence my comment about airports without pillars). It's not directly related to OP's point since my comment is more around lane crowding than it is whether Plats board ahead of SKY or not.

And fair that 90 is not exactly common - it is common on the routes I fly but that is not representative of all routes by any stretch.

Jimmie Jet Nov 12, 2018 9:42 pm

I think it should go from tallest to shortest, it is safer as short people can get the help they need to reach the bins by the superior taller people already on board.......... yes I am tall

that should about close this one

jdrtravel Nov 12, 2018 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by ethernal (Post 30423664)
Yes, they are not SKY, but they board through the "priority lane" and not General Boarding (hence my comment about airports without pillars). It's not directly related to OP's point since my comment is more around lane crowding than it is whether Plats board ahead of SKY or not.

And fair that 90 is not exactly common - it is common on the routes I fly but that is not representative of all routes by any stretch.

Fair--but people without SKY status should not board there (but I know they sometimes do). Being on the upgrade list does not entitle anyone to any perk, it's just being on a list. Between FO's, ST elite and corporate contracts that add pax to the upgrade list, I would think there are plenty of flights with lots of people who are on the UG list who are not SKY. In this case, this is an enforcement issue.

Saint4805 Nov 13, 2018 2:11 am

A bigger problem IMO is zone 3 and 4 pax standing right in front of the SP section clogging it up at those airports that don't have separated lanes at the gate. It's a battle to get past because one feels compelled to ask people standing in the way if they are SP because there are invariably one or two who take exception when someone tries to get past them even though they seem happy to just stand there.

fotographer Nov 13, 2018 4:25 am

You what I see across all airlines is that now, since overhead space is now so valuable, (not when bags checked for free)
There is always a mad dash to board the plane just for the luggage.(after all the plane is not going to take off until all the passengers have boarded anyway)
Does anyone remember a time when this was not the case?

3Cforme Nov 13, 2018 4:39 am


Originally Posted by AntonS (Post 30423465)
I never understood why you need special boarding groups like Sky, First class, etc when you can just assign boarding zones/group numbers accordingly. For example:

Group 1: First class, DM, PM
Group 2: Gold, silver, Amex
Group 3: .....
Group 4: .....

Depending on aircraft and number of elites, boarding groups can be assigned differently.

Just calling zones doesn't make people feel special. Look around for posts where people need to feel special. My favorite was the guy who thought the pet fee should be waived because he's Diamond.


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