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overdahill Jun 1, 2018 9:34 am

emergency medical failure
 
When parked outside the gate on a plane with no air, feeling like 95 degrees, no ice, no cold water, and one glass of warm water where a 10 minute delay to burn fuel turns into an hour with no notice and I begin to experience heat exhaustion.

A request to the stewardess, repeated, for cold water or other drink, air conditioning, or take me off this
plane was met with no, no, no. Being of age I have less tolerance than some about heat tolerance.

What do I do?

There seem to be no guidelines for length of time and excess temperatures.

Help!

xliioper Jun 1, 2018 9:37 am

It's deja vu all over again -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...xceptions.html

saxman66 Jun 1, 2018 10:01 am

Was this on a CRJ-200 by chance? If you are not feeling well insist on getting help from the FA. The crew should do everything they can for you, including getting back to the gate to cool the plane off.

theddo Jun 1, 2018 10:21 am

As someone who is young and was the 3d person at my place of employment (which was accidentally a hospital) that fell ill with heat-stroke one summer, I can sympathize. Keeping hydrated is important, and I think drinks should be provided free of charge unless the temperature inside the plane can be kept below 20 centigrades - and in unlimited supply.

overdahill Jun 1, 2018 10:27 am

I did and there was no response.
Seems to me an hour at over 90 with no cold refreshment and no air (warm or not) is an issue all by itself.
Yes the little ones
they should have asked for volunteers to lighten the plane before pulling from the fate an immediately saying we are
holding for 10 minutes to burn fuel.
but after an hour I either fainted or fell asleep having repeated requests for service or help.

emrdoc Jun 1, 2018 10:34 am

Teaching moment of why one should never board without having a personal supply of fluids and food. Do not rely on the airline.

3Cforme Jun 1, 2018 10:50 am


Originally Posted by overdahill (Post 29817497)
When parked outside the gate on a plane with no air, feeling like 95 degrees, no ice, no cold water, and one glass of warm water where a 10 minute delay to burn fuel turns into an hour with no notice and I begin to experience heat exhaustion.

A request to the stewardess, repeated, for cold water or other drink, air conditioning, or take me off this
plane was met with no, no, no. Being of age I have less tolerance than some about heat tolerance.

What do I do?

There seem to be no guidelines for length of time and excess temperatures.

Help!

There are, indeed guidelines for deplaning in excessive temperatures. Taking out the drama, how hot was it, really?

'The excessive heat is making me feel ill. I need to deplane,' will get you all the attention you need - and maybe a ride on your back to the airport medical clinic.

DBCme Jun 1, 2018 11:15 am


Originally Posted by emrdoc (Post 29817747)
Teaching moment of why one should never board without having a personal supply of fluids and food. Do not rely on the airline.

Yes, the unfortunate reality.

overdahill Jun 1, 2018 11:41 am


Originally Posted by emrdoc (Post 29817747)
Teaching moment of why one should never board without having a personal supply of fluids and food. Do not rely on the airline.

I had food and my medicine. Not sufficient carry on space for more than one item. Not a full size jet.
Still there are temperature and time limits no matter what. Maybe I should teach you young man?
Young uns and very old uns cannot be so held responsible.

If you were in either of my two hospitals emr, fired.

gernabae Jun 1, 2018 11:53 am

This sounds like you were burning fuel on taxi-out for departure, is that correct? Just had a hard time interpreting.

If so, I guess that surprises me as I would have assumed the engine running would be a primary method of burning fuel. As everyone knows those planes get stifling once pre-conditioned air has been disconnected until an engine has been started and that can be a painful time.

emrdoc Jun 1, 2018 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by overdahill (Post 29818020)
I had food and my medicine. Not sufficient carry on space for more than one item. Not a full size jet.
Still there are temperature and time limits no matter what. Maybe I should teach you young man?
Young uns and very old uns cannot be so held responsible.

If you were in either of my two hospitals emr, fired.

Jeez...chill out pops :-)

Just trying to be helpful.

CarmenOM Jun 1, 2018 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by overdahill (Post 29817497)
When parked outside the gate on a plane with no air, feeling like 95 degrees, no ice, no cold water, and one glass of warm water where a 10 minute delay to burn fuel turns into an hour with no notice and I begin to experience heat exhaustion.

A request to the stewardess, repeated, for cold water or other drink, air conditioning, or take me off this
plane was met with no, no, no. Being of age I have less tolerance than some about heat tolerance.

What do I do?

There seem to be no guidelines for length of time and excess temperatures.

Help!

Don’t insist on a cold drink. Room temperature water will hydrate you just as well as a cold drink, even if it doesn’t feel as good.

overdahill Jun 1, 2018 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by gernabae (Post 29818059)
This sounds like you were burning fuel on taxi-out for departure, is that correct? Just had a hard time interpreting.

If so, I guess that surprises me as I would have assumed the engine running would be a primary method of burning fuel. As everyone knows those planes get stifling once pre-conditioned air has been disconnected until an engine has been started and that can be a painful time.

Yes it was. the closed the door and announced that we need to burn fuel as we were to heavy. only 10 min but turned
into an hour. No air no cold water or ice or any means of cooling. Engines running but no air till in sky. O2 deprivation was probably also occurring.

overdahill Jun 1, 2018 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by CarmenOM (Post 29818193)


Don’t insist on a cold drink. Room temperature water will hydrate you just as well as a cold drink, even if it doesn’t feel as good.

But warm water does not reduce body temperature! So both are important.

overdahill Jun 1, 2018 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by emrdoc (Post 29818123)
Jeez...chill out pops :-)

Just trying to be helpful.

Helpful is to help the guidelines of extreme conditions be published.
Second to provide for penalties for abuse or non response to debord request when it is
possible to do so.


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