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samwise6222 Jun 1, 2018 9:06 am


Originally Posted by xolinlevh (Post 29817257)
Well, 'legit' is up to interpretation. I dont know of any airline that allows free mileage transfers (with good reason). I can see why people would want it, but i can also see why its not allowed.


Originally Posted by dmac7273 (Post 29817374)
True, no airlines allow it, and of course, they do it very much on purpose as well. That being said, it would be awesome if it was allowed.

Not true.

Jetblue - free
Korean Air - free
Asiana Air - free
Turkish - IIRC, only if you are an elite
Aeromexico - IIRC, free
British Airways - free
Hawaiian - IIRC, free if you are a CC holder
Qantas - free
ANA - free
​​​​​​​Japan Air - free

dmac7273 Jun 1, 2018 9:45 am

Interesting - I didn't know any of that.

In that case, get on it Delta!

UKtravelbear Jun 1, 2018 10:03 am

BA is not free to transfer between accounts unless you are Gold (and there are restrictions on that)

From https://www.britishairways.com/trave...s/public/en_gb

You can also top-up another Member’s account, when they live at a different address from you, by transferring Avios to them. That way, they can enjoy their next reward* flight sooner.
  • You can pay to transfer up to 162,000 Avios, with a maximum of 27,000 Avios to any Executive Club Member, in one calendar year.
  • Once you reach Gold membership, you can transfer 162,000 Avios per year for free to eligible individuals who have been added to the Sender’s Family and Friends List, with the option to pay for a further 162,000.
  • A Member can receive up to 27,000 Avios by free transfer and 27,000 by paid transfer.
  • You will need to know the full name, email address and Executive Club number to transfer Avios to another Member.
  • The Member receiving Avios needs to have a balance of one or more Avios in their account.
  • Avios can only be transferred online and in multiples of 1,000** with a maximum amount per transaction of 27,000 Avios.
  • You will be charged a non-refundable fee, dependent on the number of Avios transferred.
  • You must be over 18 years old to transfer Avios.

xolinlevh Jun 1, 2018 10:20 am

I didnt know that many airlines offered it either. Good to know! But it doesnt change that the OP seems to be missing the point of how branded credit cards work :) OPs complaint is that the Delta Amex doesnt allow transfers, which of course it doesnt. YOUR card goes to YOUR SkyMiles account. Beyond that, complaining about how 'every other credit card' allows it, shows simply that OP doesnt know what hes complaining about?

Gynob001 Jun 1, 2018 10:33 am

May be possible
 

Originally Posted by mpapli (Post 29816781)
Only American Express DELTA SKYMILES wont a allow to transfer miles between spouse. You have to pay to transfer miles can you believe these guys. Every other Credit card allows to free transfer except AEDS (American Express Delta Skymiles)
I think its about time for them to make those changes.

When my wife passed away, I was able to transfer her miles to mine by a request letter and a copy of her death certificate.

spamkiller Jun 1, 2018 10:34 am


Originally Posted by samwise6222 (Post 29817406)
Not true.

Jetblue - free
Korean Air - free
Asiana Air - free
Turkish - IIRC, only if you are an elite
Aeromexico - IIRC, free
British Airways - free
Hawaiian - IIRC, free if you are a CC holder
Qantas - free
ANA - free
Japan Air - free

Though not an airline, Marriott allows it. However, the receiving spouse needs to have a reservation that requires the points.

Gig103 Jun 1, 2018 10:35 am

It would be nice if credit card Authorized Users could earn into their own account. To my knowlege, you can't even do that with a regular Amex Membership Rewards (only the MR account master can transfer to his or her name).

TheHorta Jun 1, 2018 10:55 am

I think the simplest solution is for DL to allow linking of SM accounts between confirmed spouses, so the booking party can draw from the combined pool of SMs without having to transfer or pay egregious fees and jump over egregious humps.

GoAmtrak Jun 1, 2018 10:58 am

Sun Country has free points pooling, and joining a pool also prevents one's points from ever expiring. Yes, SY/UFly's value has plummeted and seems to worsen by the day, but it's a useful alternative in a pinch ex-MSP.

samwise6222 Jun 1, 2018 11:19 am


Originally Posted by UKtravelbear (Post 29817605)
BA is not free to transfer between accounts unless you are Gold (and there are restrictions on that)

From https://www.britishairways.com/trave...s/public/en_gb

You can also top-up another Member’s account, when they live at a different address from you, by transferring Avios to them. That way, they can enjoy their next reward* flight sooner.
  • You can pay to transfer up to 162,000 Avios, with a maximum of 27,000 Avios to any Executive Club Member, in one calendar year.
  • Once you reach Gold membership, you can transfer 162,000 Avios per year for free to eligible individuals who have been added to the Sender’s Family and Friends List, with the option to pay for a further 162,000.
  • A Member can receive up to 27,000 Avios by free transfer and 27,000 by paid transfer.
  • You will need to know the full name, email address and Executive Club number to transfer Avios to another Member.
  • The Member receiving Avios needs to have a balance of one or more Avios in their account.
  • Avios can only be transferred online and in multiples of 1,000** with a maximum amount per transaction of 27,000 Avios.
  • You will be charged a non-refundable fee, dependent on the number of Avios transferred.
  • You must be over 18 years old to transfer Avios.

Well, the topic of this thread was transfer between family members / spouse. IIRC, Household Accounts can pool for free.

Bowgie Jun 1, 2018 11:29 am

But you can borrow Skymiles from Amex
 
If you hold a Delta Amex Platinum cc, one can borrow miles from future cc mileage earnings to book an award flight faster. You have to earn back the borrowed miles within six billing periods, or Amex charges 2.5 cents per mile for the remaining miles not yet earned back. Not sure if Delta Amex Gold cc offers this.

This works well. I borrowed 20,000 miles to book a 160,000 asia award in “low” six months ago for a trip in August. Had I waited until I earned the remaining miles that I needed, low availability would have been gone.

UKtravelbear Jun 1, 2018 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by samwise6222 (Post 29817941)
Well, the topic of this thread was transfer between family members / spouse. IIRC, Household Accounts can pool for free.

In a BA house hold account the avios are still held in each individual members account and then a redemption takes place the cost is removed in proportion to the avios held in each members accounts within the house hold account.

And a HHA needs to be actively set up - living at the same address does not automatically create a HHA.

Often1 Jun 1, 2018 1:13 pm

Would be great if you could take the best features from every FFP and ditch the worst ones.

The better question here --- not that DL is asking --- is what would you give up to obtain a "pooling" feature understanding that it's all or nothing, e.g., you can't select "pooling" and the next guy selects something else.

There's nothing wrong with wanting what's best for you --- it's called consumer choice --- but, wanting isn't getting.

xolinlevh Jun 1, 2018 1:28 pm

Tho I think its also important to make sure the OP understands which system is responsible for what. OP repeatedly calls out American Express, and states that 'every other credit card....', which is absolutely unrelated to how airlines allow sharing of miles. As others have said, sure its easy to want the best for the program you use, but....just because another company does it, doesnt mean Delta will (or amex will)

flyerCO Jun 2, 2018 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by Gynob001 (Post 29817742)
When my wife passed away, I was able to transfer her miles to mine by a request letter and a copy of her death certificate.

It's how it used to be before the never expire till you do policy came into play.


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