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Solution for the GUC problems ...
Why not have an GUC+ (insted to choice 4 x GUC, you can choice 2 x GUC+).
The GUC+ give you access to upgrade at ticketing to J (no class restriction). Or to use 2 x GUC to avoid the class restriction. This will also lower the "usable" # of GUC (and leave more GUC seat for "normal" GUC PAX). |
Wishful thinking but this will never happen. Delta will not let a seat they think they can sell (at a certain target margin) go for a free upgrade instead.
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I truly do not understand the non-stop whining recently in the DL forum about GUC's. They have been successful beyond my wildest dreams for the past three years for my wife and I. Like so many other "enhancements" over the years, DL has no reason to make these GUC's "better". They keep taking perks away and keep making more money.
I think I need to start up a bunch of threads whining about how low-revenue Diamonds like us will no longer be Diamonds next year. (...and quickly be shot down by the WFBF minions who for some reason participate in forum that revolves around FF perks) |
Originally Posted by pgh234
(Post 29443953)
I truly do not understand the non-stop whining recently in the DL forum about GUC's. They have been successful beyond my wildest dreams for the past three years for my wife and I. Like so many other "enhancements" over the years, DL has no reason to make these GUC's "better". They keep taking perks away and keep making more money.
I think I need to start up a bunch of threads whining about how low-revenue Diamonds like us will no longer be Diamonds next year. (...and quickly be shot down by the WFBF minions who for some reason participate in forum that revolves around FF perks) |
Originally Posted by FBplatinum
(Post 29443675)
Why not have an GUC+ (insted to choice 4 x GUC, you can choice 2 x GUC+).
The GUC+ give you access to upgrade at ticketing to J (no class restriction). Or to use 2 x GUC to avoid the class restriction. This will also lower the "usable" # of GUC (and leave more GUC seat for "normal" GUC PAX). Many international routes, and some longer domestic routes operate once a day. There's NO WAY they're gonna allow EVERY SINGLE J seat on these routes, where many J seats are sold, to be able to be filled with a pax on a Main Cabin fare, which is what your scheme - in effect - does. |
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 29444113)
The reason this "scheme" will never work, is simple, IMO . . . .
Many international routes, and some longer domestic routes operate once a day. There's NO WAY they're gonna allow EVERY SINGLE J seat on these routes, where many J seats are sold, to be able to be filled with a pax on a Main Cabin fare, which is what your scheme - in effect - does. Even this happen! This mean you have lots of Diamond customers, and all this Diamond customers must have expense $$$$$ to Delta before. We can limit this option to 1x for each diamond (each year) also. |
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 29444113)
The reason this "scheme" will never work, is simple, IMO . . . .
Many international routes, and some longer domestic routes operate once a day. There's NO WAY they're gonna allow EVERY SINGLE J seat on these routes, where many J seats are sold, to be able to be filled with a pax on a Main Cabin fare, which is what your scheme - in effect - does. |
Originally Posted by ijgordon
(Post 29444330)
They do this with mileage awards already, no? |
I'd like to see 2 "regular" GUCs offered to Platinums as a Choice Benefit.
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Originally Posted by FBplatinum
(Post 29444301)
I think the chance you have enough Diamond PAX on this day and on this particular flight to take ALL J seat is very low.
Even this happen! This mean you have lots of Diamond customers, and all this Diamond customers must have expense $$$$$ to Delta before. We can limit this option to 1x for each diamond (each year) also. The only logical argument to do so is for loyalty, but unless other airlines do this, I don't think you can really make that argument. You are saying DL should give up say up to $14000 in revenue ( 2x RT TPAC) to upgrade a passenger from a lowest coach fare to a J fare, because they are a Diamond??? When they might not even give that revenue to Delta all year? Yeah right. |
Originally Posted by CPMaverick
(Post 29444494)
DL is not going to give away any J seats they think they can sell. That's kind of the end of the story.
The only logical argument to do so is for loyalty, but unless other airlines do this, I don't think you can really make that argument. You are saying DL should give up say up to $14000 in revenue ( 2x RT TPAC) to upgrade a passenger from a lowest coach fare to a J fare, because they are a Diamond??? When they might not even give that revenue to Delta all year? Yeah right. As I write this will reduce the # of GUC by 50%... Did you think EACH upgrade from a paid ticket cost 7,000$ to Delta ??? I just check a D1 from JFK to PVG, 2 way cost 3.5K (in one month)... and from your calculation an ONE WAY upgrade cost (from a paid already ticket) the double of an 2 way D1... ? |
Originally Posted by FBplatinum
(Post 29444578)
They already give 4 x GUC...
As I write this will reduce the # of GUC by 50%... What's actually going to seriously reduce the number of GUCs out there, is, the TOTAL SLAUGHTER of the Diamond herd, via the insane raising of the Amex waiver! |
Originally Posted by FBplatinum
(Post 29444578)
They already give 4 x GUC...
As I write this will reduce the # of GUC by 50%... Did you think EACH upgrade from a paid ticket cost 7,000$ to Delta ??? I just check a D1 from JFK to PVG, 2 way cost 3.5K (in one month)... and from your calculation an ONE WAY upgrade cost (from a paid already ticket) the double of an 2 way D1... ? 10K for TPAC is a very normal advanced booking TPAC fare. A high demand trip like Saturday -> Thursday/Friday TPAC fare booked only a week or two in advance is easily 15K on some routes. This is a typical example - it's not cherry picked; look at the ICN route as another example. These are not even Full J fares - J "last seats" often run 20-25K+. |
Originally Posted by FBplatinum
(Post 29444578)
They already give 4 x GUC...
Delta limits their expense by restricting inventory.
Originally Posted by FBplatinum
(Post 29444578)
Did you think EACH upgrade from a paid ticket cost 7,000$ to Delta ???
When I say 'up to $14k', surely you understand that it is possible for you to find a cheaper fare without my statement being false. But maybe not, nothing much else you say makes sense. Your whole premise is looking at things from what you want as a passenger, it makes no business sense whatsoever. |
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 29444622)
What's actually going to seriously reduce the number of GUCs out there, is, the TOTAL SLAUGHTER of the Diamond herd, via the insane raising of the Amex waiver!
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