FA sues against Delta for discrimination Israelis
Jan 3, 2018, 3:29 pm
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FA sues against Delta for discrimination Israelis
Wow! FA who sued against Delta about discrimination Israelis. She was fired from Delta, but her travel privileges is revoked. You cannot be fired her from Delta. That's not right! She has no reason to be fired from Delta.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...inst-israelis/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...inst-israelis/
Jan 3, 2018, 3:52 pm
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This article provides nothing to show that these employees were actually discriminated against and terminated becuase they’re Jewish or have Jewish friends.
The article only provides some (very limited) info about two of the four plaintiffs. The first days one FA was fired for missing a flight but she claims she was on maternity leave. So there’s a screw up somewhere - possibly on her part, possibly on HRs, but that doesn’t automatically mean “anti Israel/Jewish discrimination”.
The second FA claims she she was suspended and had her travel privileges revoked because she gave her employee companion pass to a Jewish friend. Something tells me that she was actually disciplined becuase her friend did something with the pass while traveling as an NRSA that got her (the employee) in trouble.
From what we’ve been presented so far by the OP, to me this lawsuit seems to line up in a lot of ways with the recent USAFA racist graffiti case - “I’m getting in trouble for something so I’ll claim ‘discrimination’ in an unrelated way and then become a victim, making it more difficult to discipline me.”
The article only provides some (very limited) info about two of the four plaintiffs. The first days one FA was fired for missing a flight but she claims she was on maternity leave. So there’s a screw up somewhere - possibly on her part, possibly on HRs, but that doesn’t automatically mean “anti Israel/Jewish discrimination”.
The second FA claims she she was suspended and had her travel privileges revoked because she gave her employee companion pass to a Jewish friend. Something tells me that she was actually disciplined becuase her friend did something with the pass while traveling as an NRSA that got her (the employee) in trouble.
From what we’ve been presented so far by the OP, to me this lawsuit seems to line up in a lot of ways with the recent USAFA racist graffiti case - “I’m getting in trouble for something so I’ll claim ‘discrimination’ in an unrelated way and then become a victim, making it more difficult to discipline me.”
Jan 3, 2018, 4:14 pm
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I'm interested to see how this develops. I remember when Delta teamed with Saudia. My impression then (and now) is what kind of American company goes into business with the airline of a country that is openly (and often officially) anti-semitic (and, no, I am not talking about attitudes towards Israel). I've managed to avoid Delta since then, doing my mainline flying on UA and AA (and, recently, WN). I'd really like to have been a fly on the wall for the corporate discussions about adding Saudia. Without reading the complaint, I am not prepared to venture an opinion as to its merit (and, even then, I might not), but I am also not prepared to simply dismiss it as meritless.
Jan 3, 2018, 4:54 pm
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This is nothing more than group of disgruntled people looking for a pay day. Many of the people they worked with on the flight to israel are speaking out and saying they are all lying.
Jan 3, 2018, 5:11 pm
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Jan 3, 2018, 5:27 pm
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Jan 3, 2018, 5:59 pm
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Is it standard practice for Delta to go around asking their staff and customers if they are Jewish to ensure they can fire staff that are friends with jews? We are not talking Sikhs here, how would they know?
Jan 3, 2018, 8:14 pm
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I'm interested to see how this develops. I remember when Delta teamed with Saudia. My impression then (and now) is what kind of American company goes into business with the airline of a country that is openly (and often officially) anti-semitic (and, no, I am not talking about attitudes towards Israel). I've managed to avoid Delta since then, doing my mainline flying on UA and AA (and, recently, WN). I'd really like to have been a fly on the wall for the corporate discussions about adding Saudia. Without reading the complaint, I am not prepared to venture an opinion as to its merit (and, even then, I might not), but I am also not prepared to simply dismiss it as meritless.
Surprised no one in our online circles has dug it up and posted a link.
Jan 3, 2018, 9:07 pm
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I just noticed this was filed in federal court. I'll check Pacer.
For some reason, I can't get in to Pacer tonight. I'll check tomorrow.
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Jan 4, 2018, 5:54 am
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I was asking whether the poster who said "Many of the people they worked with on the flight to israel are speaking out and saying they are all lying." could provide any support for that assertion.
Jan 4, 2018, 6:32 am
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That's not right! She has no reason to be fired from Delta.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...inst-israelis/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...inst-israelis/
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Wow! FA who sued against Delta about discrimination Israelis. She was fired from Delta, but her travel privileges is revoked. You cannot be fired her from Delta. That's not right! She has no reason to be fired from Delta.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...inst-israelis/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...inst-israelis/
But at least the article is not. All I see is unsubstantiated claims... smells an awful lot like a few employees got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and figured the race card was their best play.
Jan 4, 2018, 10:29 am
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But yes, I agree on your second point that from what little we've been presented, it sounds like some employees landed in hot water and are trying to use a victim card to try to get out of it, divert attention, get Delta to drop any discipline for fear of being perceived as discriminating against a protected class, or they're looking for a pay day/quick settlement, hoping that Delta will pay out a sizeable enough sum just to get the case to go away. My speculation is the employee who was suspended and had her own travel privileges revoked after giving her employee companion pass to a "Jewish friend" had her travel privileges revoked because the friend violated the NRSA rules while traveling on the NRSA pass.
Jan 4, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Thank you ATOBTTR for reminding everyone's of N830MH's use of American Sign Language and and the very vague translations that do occur. If I recall he used to have in his signature a mention of ASL and translation issues.
Jan 4, 2018, 1:33 pm
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Pacer only has federal complaints, and Lexis (or Westlaw) is unlikely to have the complaint. It may be available on the New York court website. I was looking for it myself earlier. I'll try again.
I just noticed this was filed in federal court. I'll check Pacer.
For some reason, I can't get in to Pacer tonight. I'll check tomorrow.
I just noticed this was filed in federal court. I'll check Pacer.
For some reason, I can't get in to Pacer tonight. I'll check tomorrow.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...-airlines-inc/
I'll post again after I've read it.