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RunningforMiles Dec 26, 2017 7:55 am

Downgrade from Paid F to C+ Four Months Out
 
Flying YYZ-DTW-PEK in April, got a schedule change notification email last night that showed no schedule change but rather a downgrade from F to C+ on YYZ-DTW (Endeavor operated).

I’m still assigned 1A which is now marked as C+. Seems to be an equipment change but it’s still a CRJ, which I thought all had F? Regardless, seems to be the new norm for this flight at least in April.

Anyway, my question is if they will treat this as a schedule change and allow me to make changes as if it were a 60 min change? Would love to try and leave the day prior or switch to CI on the outbound.

Keith2004 Dec 26, 2017 7:58 am


Originally Posted by RunningforMiles (Post 29215925)
Flying YYZ-DTW-PEK in April, got a schedule change notification email last night that showed no schedule change but rather a downgrade from F to C+ on YYZ-DTW (Endeavor operated).

I’m still assigned 1A which is now marked as C+. Seems to be an equipment change but it’s still a CRJ, which I thought all had F? Regardless, seems to be the new norm for this flight at least in April.

Anyway, my question is if they will treat this as a schedule change and allow me to make changes as if it were a 60 mins change? Would love to try and leave the day prior or switch to CI on the outbound.

CRJ-200 does not have first class, 1A is comfort plus

could be that you were on another CRJ, the 700 and 900 have first class.

Even though It Is a 60 minute change they most likely will work with you especially considering the downgrade

pvn Dec 26, 2017 7:58 am

CRJ-200 does not have an F cabin.

You can almost certainly call in and make changes

Duke787 Dec 26, 2017 7:58 am

Can't answer part 2 but what you describe would suggest a downgrade to the CR2 which does not have any FC

3Cforme Dec 26, 2017 7:59 am

CR7s and CR9s gave F cabins; 50 seat CRJs do not. Delta Connection has about 140 CRJs.

RunningforMiles Dec 26, 2017 8:05 am

Must be the it, thanks! I will give them a call and see.

btonkid12345 Dec 26, 2017 10:21 am


Originally Posted by RunningforMiles (Post 29215952)
Must be the it, thanks! I will give them a call and see.

I was downgraded on a paid international J ticket from F to Y when IAD-JFK switched to a CRJ200 at some point.

Ticket was issued by KL. DL took it over and reissued on any WAS-NYC flight I wanted that had an F cabin.

While I doubt you will be reaccommodated on another carrier for a downgrade for such a short flight, DL will literally accept anything else YOU propose on their metal - move back or forward by a day, go YYZ-NYC-DTW or YYZ-ATL-DTW etc to keep F all the way thru.

They also may offer you a $200 downgrade voucher if you stay on the downgraded flight, if you prefer that.

StayingHomeIsBetter Dec 26, 2017 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by Keith2004 (Post 29215933)
CRJ-200 does not have first class, 1A is comfort plus

...

If I recall correctly, CRJ-200s have one row, three seats of dis-Comfort+

They have declared row 1 as such... probably just so they can claim it exists on all aircraft.

xliioper Dec 26, 2017 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 29217999)
If I recall correctly, CRJ-200s have one row, three seats of dis-Comfort+

They have declared row 1 as such... probably just so they can claim it exists on all aircraft.

CRJ-200's are 4 across, not 3. Endeavor reserves seats 1C and 1D for special needs pax, so only 1A and 1B are available for booking. Skywest seems to reserve the entire row on many routes, so often you can't actually book C+ on them.

MSPeconomist Dec 27, 2017 9:24 am


Originally Posted by LBJ (Post 29218025)
CRJ-200's are 4 across, not 3. Endeavor reserves seats 1C and 1D for special needs pax, so only 1A and 1B are available for booking. Skywest seems to reserve the entire row on many routes, so often you can't actually book C+ on them.

Yet another reason to avoid SkyWest.

hockeyinsider Dec 28, 2017 2:04 pm

For what it's worth, 1B or 1C on the CRJ200 isn't bad if 1A or 1D are unoccupied.

MSPeconomist Dec 28, 2017 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 29224233)
For what it's worth, 1B or 1C on the CRJ200 isn't bad if 1A or 1D are unoccupied.

.......and what are the chances of those seats being empty? IMO it's very rare to see an empty seat on a DL CRJ-200 flight.

RunningforMiles Dec 28, 2017 2:29 pm

FWIW, I ended up getting rebooked a day earlier, which works well for me, onto a CRJ-9 with a 60 min connection in DTW. The very polite but green sounding agent didn't seem to understand why I wanted to change and quoted me the change fee so I was about to kindly HUCA but she proactively got her supervisor who reissued the ticket no problem. Fare bucket went from F to G, but c'est la vie.


Originally Posted by btonkid12345 (Post 29216288)
I was downgraded on a paid international J ticket from F to Y when IAD-JFK switched to a CRJ200 at some point.

Ticket was issued by KL. DL took it over and reissued on any WAS-NYC flight I wanted that had an F cabin.

While I doubt you will be reaccommodated on another carrier for a downgrade for such a short flight, DL will literally accept anything else YOU propose on their metal - move back or forward by a day, go YYZ-NYC-DTW or YYZ-ATL-DTW etc to keep F all the way thru.

They also may offer you a $200 downgrade voucher if you stay on the downgraded flight, if you prefer that.

Earlier this year I had a domestic segment on a paid TATL J ticket change by about 61 mins and got the whole trip rebooked onto AF metal no questions asked.

MSPeconomist Dec 28, 2017 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by RunningforMiles (Post 29224334)
FWIW, I ended up getting rebooked a day earlier, which works well for me, onto a CRJ-9 with a 60 min connection in DTW. The very polite but green sounding agent didn't seem to understand why I wanted to change and quoted me the change fee so I was about to kindly HUCA but she proactively got her supervisor who reissued the ticket no problem. Fare bucket went from F to G, but c'est la vie.



Earlier this year I had a domestic segment on a paid TATL J ticket change by about 61 mins and got the whole trip rebooked onto AF metal no questions asked.

If you had a FULL F fare, you should have been allowed free changes for any reason or no reason at all. In addition to this flexibility (no need to wait to T-24 to do SDC, for example), FULL F earns 200% MQMs versus 150% for a G fare class ticket.

hockeyinsider Dec 28, 2017 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 29224312)
.......and what are the chances of those seats being empty? IMO it's very rare to see an empty seat on a DL CRJ-200 flight.

I've had four CRJ200 flights in the past month. On each one I was 1B or 1C and had no seatmate. The other passenger didn't either. Delta doesn't seem to be upgrading at the gate for these seats, either.


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