Does having a DL Reserve still break a tie? Is MM or 2MM a factor for tiebreakers?
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Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR
(Post 26570234)
I confess to being one of those who used to use the term incorrectly. :o After a time on FT I now use, at the window, at the gate, battlefield. I have never had a battlefield on Delta only ever on Continental.
Originally Posted by RobertS975
(Post 26571397)
Does having a DL Reserve still break a tie? Is MM or 2MM a factor for tiebreakers?
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Originally Posted by Beckles
(Post 26568691)
And those people are using the term battlefield upgrade incorrectly, a battlefield upgrade is an upgrade aboard the aircraft.
I have been upgraded on board exactly three times. Two of those were some years back, but astoundingly one was last summer ATL-SEA with a waitlisted RUC. :cool: David |
Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 26553587)
Many routes now have the discounted "CA" fares, or capacity controlled. They don't have "last seat availability" but work mostly the same way as YCA fares (they are refundable and changeable without a penalty - you can get hit with a fare difference though if the capacity control fare is no longer available and only a YCA fare is available on the flight you're switching to). On DL, most of my capacity controlled fares have booked into K or L.
And if there's no GSA city-pair then it books random fare codes. I've seen everything from X to Q on DL when booking with the alternate options tab through DTS. I wouldn't be shocked if this is a big one. I've traveled on some ridiculously expensive YCA fares but I've also traveled on some extremely cheap ones too - SEA-LAX is around $300-$350 round trip at the full YCA pair; around $175 or so round trip at the capacity controlled rate). And on DL, I've only missed one UG when on a YCA fare since finally moving to a market where there are actually a ton of contract rates (many routes I flew out of at my previous assignment didn't have GSA city-pair YCA fares). That being said, I did just book possibly my first Y fare a few weeks ago for an upcoming trip to Africa with a domestic flight on Delta, and it cleared at booking. Glad I ticketed before the standard 72 hours before departure, but I always ticket after the itinerary is approved because I want good seats in coach, and you can't select preferred seats until you are ticketed. Bottom line: I guess this is a much bigger deal for government travelers who travel domestically exclusively, but honestly, how many people are really still flying on YCA fares for the government? |
Originally Posted by JayTeaBee
(Post 26563014)
This is a bit of a long story. Route is PWM-ATL-MBJ. I already have two tickets in J booked the whole way for relatives and have been trying to book Mrs. JayTeaBee & I on the same flights. Needless to say the original deal I got is nowhere to be found and prices on these flights are out of control for any seat. Eventually I was able to snag two more tickets but Y fares on the domestic segments and J (Z fare business) for the international. Tickets were all same price. I jumped on the combo fare as I thought even with companion ,Y fares would have priority at the gate based on my status. Perhaps I was wrong. Although the one thing I could have done was split my pnr after booking and at least cleared myself into 1st immediately. Wanted to have best shot for both of us to be up front on domestic segs despite not being able to book directly in.
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Originally Posted by kahuna613
(Post 26572539)
I fly exclusively to Africa on government fares...but with the changes a few years ago in the JTR allowing restricted airfare instead of government airfare, we more or less never use full Y fares, or even the capacity controlled ones because there's not too many cities in Africa with a City Pair fare from Washington. For the other cities, the fare difference between the "government" fare and a nonrefundable fare is in the 1000s of dollars and not justified. Fairly moot point anyhow because I rarely make a domestic connecting flight on my way to Africa, preferring rather to go directly to Paris or Amsterdam on codeshares.
That being said, I did just book possibly my first Y fare a few weeks ago for an upcoming trip to Africa with a domestic flight on Delta, and it cleared at booking. Glad I ticketed before the standard 72 hours before departure, but I always ticket after the itinerary is approved because I want good seats in coach, and you can't select preferred seats until you are ticketed. Bottom line: I guess this is a much bigger deal for government travelers who travel domestically exclusively, but honestly, how many people are really still flying on YCA fares for the government? I guess getting away from the City-Pairs is dependent on your travel office and approving officials. In Ohio, if the route did have a city-pair fare, my approving officials were less strict about using "mission requirements" to justify flying someone other than the contract carrier on the route. At my current assignment, they're more strict about enforcing it, even when another carrier might be slightly cheaper. All depends on your department I guess. |
Originally Posted by DiverDave
(Post 26572335)
You are correct ^, but that "battle" is mostly a lost cause here on the DL forum as almost everybody uses that term for gate upgrades. Though given the gate lice and chaos during boarding, the error is quite understandable.
I have been upgraded on board exactly three times. Two of those were some years back, but astoundingly one was last summer ATL-SEA with a waitlisted RUC. :cool: David |
Originally Posted by kahuna613
(Post 26572539)
Bottom line: I guess this is a much bigger deal for government travelers who travel domestically exclusively, but honestly, how many people are really still flying on YCA fares for the government?
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