How would you rate AA's FF program vs. DL FF program?
#1
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How would you rate AA's FF program vs. DL FF program?
I have re-qualified for Diamond for FY15. However, I essentially fly cross-country flights on cheap fare tickets (SFO-ATL-CLT-ATL-SFO for ~$650) and will go from accruing ~12,000 miles/week to 7,000 miles/week. So far I was willing to fly 1-stop flights although AA/US offered direct flights. With the new FY15 rules regarding miles accrual, I am seriously re-considering whether I should stick with Delta starting next year.
Don't get me wrong, I love Delta's products and service. But earning less miles than what I used to is a deal-breaker to me. So here is an genuine question: considering my flying patterns and that my main FF criteria are mileage accrual, award redemption and domestic upgrades, do you think AA/US is a better program than DL for FY15 onward?
Don't get me wrong, I love Delta's products and service. But earning less miles than what I used to is a deal-breaker to me. So here is an genuine question: considering my flying patterns and that my main FF criteria are mileage accrual, award redemption and domestic upgrades, do you think AA/US is a better program than DL for FY15 onward?
Last edited by sorka; Nov 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm
#3
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EXP bonus is 100% vs current 125% for DL Diamond. So mileage earned on the AA non-stop would be about 9200 miles roundtrip. EXP's seem to do pretty well on upgrades and AA miles tend to be easier to redeem, so AA would seem to be a natural given your flying pattern and priorities.
Last edited by xliioper; Nov 22, 2014 at 7:34 pm
#4
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I am in a similar situation. I just earned diamond on delta. I am willing to chance it this upcoming year to see how it works out. 2015 I will see how I did and then see about switching my loyalty. By then I figure that aa/UA will have figured it out.
#5
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As it is now it's way better and also no MQD's at least for another year. So far they haven't changed their award chart so you can get first class for 62.5k miles. AA actually allows you to fly first class on Asian partners which is amazing trust me .
Switch to Us air now do the challenge get chairman and then when the programs merge you will have top status on AA so why not do it?
Switch to Us air now do the challenge get chairman and then when the programs merge you will have top status on AA so why not do it?
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#8
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Look at the links in post 2 here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...help-here.html
Your question has been asked before including this http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-sense-me.html
Your question has been asked before including this http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-sense-me.html
#9
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Guess you better hope so but IMO AA will begin to pretty much look like your deal breaker beginning in 2016.
#10
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I am both AA Plat and DL Diamond and have found AA to be far superior in terms of value for miles, upgrades, and award availability. FLying out of SEA as my home base means all DL non stop xcountry flights are not upgrade eligible. Redemption for award travel is ridiculously expensive based on mile value. I am putting all my eggs in the AA bucket this year and headed for AA ExecPlat rather than DL.
#11
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I am both AA Plat and DL Diamond and have found AA to be far superior in terms of value for miles, upgrades, and award availability. FLying out of SEA as my home base means all DL non stop xcountry flights are not upgrade eligible. Redemption for award travel is ridiculously expensive based on mile value. I am putting all my eggs in the AA bucket this year and headed for AA ExecPlat rather than DL.
I have qualified for a few upgrades JFK-SEA and back myself.
#12
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I am not an AA FF, but I will say that I find Avios redemptions (which should equal AA low level availability) to be at least as bad as DL availability. I haven't found any valuable awards with Avios in 12-16 months.
In flight, AA is fine, but not at DL levels. The cabins are nice, but PDBs are as rare as hen's teeth. For short-haul, and on-balance, AA<DL.
I would choose whichever carrier offers the better schedule.
In flight, AA is fine, but not at DL levels. The cabins are nice, but PDBs are as rare as hen's teeth. For short-haul, and on-balance, AA<DL.
I would choose whichever carrier offers the better schedule.
#13
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That's being somewhat overly-dramatic as it was only the SEA-JFK flight and, as noted above, they have basically reversed the decision for Plats and Diamonds. The non-stops from SEA to other DL hubs, such as ATL, MSP, DTW, were never affected.
#14
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IMO, of the majors, I'd rank their programs (from best to worst)as:
2014:
1. UA - largest partner network, one way awards & stopovers
2. AA
3. US - no one-way awards or stopovers
4. DL - revenue based; poor award availability
2015:
1. US/AA FF
2. UA - revenue based
3. DL - revenue based; very poor award availability
2014:
1. UA - largest partner network, one way awards & stopovers
2. AA
3. US - no one-way awards or stopovers
4. DL - revenue based; poor award availability
2015:
1. US/AA FF
2. UA - revenue based
3. DL - revenue based; very poor award availability
#15
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IMO, of the majors, I'd rank their programs (from best to worst)as:
2014:
1. UA - largest partner network, one way awards & stopovers
2. AA
3. US - no one-way awards or stopovers
4. DL - revenue based; poor award availability
2015:
1. US/AA FF
2. UA - revenue based
3. DL - revenue based; very poor award availability
2014:
1. UA - largest partner network, one way awards & stopovers
2. AA
3. US - no one-way awards or stopovers
4. DL - revenue based; poor award availability
2015:
1. US/AA FF
2. UA - revenue based
3. DL - revenue based; very poor award availability