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twtrvl Aug 7, 2014 10:33 pm

I suppose he could have created his own boarding pass and the email.

MSPeconomist Aug 7, 2014 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by twtrvl (Post 23329046)
I suppose he could have created his own boarding pass and the email.

No, he seems to have shown the boarding pass to at least the FA and possibly one GA too. However, although he stated that he received the email two days in advance, I suspect that he didn't show the email to the FA/GA, at least not in a way that they could verify it. It would also seem like a servious risk to try to fly with a self-altered boarding pass.

Is it possible that, before the OP arrived at the gate, Mr 2A behaved so badly to the GAs that they deliberately created duplicate seat assignments giving the OP 2A so that Mr 2A could be kicked back to coach as punishment/retaliation? [If so, they were nice not to give him the a midle seat in the last row of coach or a seat next to a lap brat or a COS.] I'm trying to figure out why the GAs were so adamant that the OP owned 2A if it had been assigned to the DYKWIA earlier.

lsugolfer Aug 7, 2014 10:47 pm

Awkwardly Booted from 2A
 
I was the Mr. 2A a few years ago after being upgraded at the window and an equip swap occurred later, despite the same amount of seats my assignment was never confirmed after the swap.

Except I was booted to coach.

HongKonger Aug 8, 2014 12:10 am


Originally Posted by moxielady (Post 23328264)
I commend you for your consideration of the other passengers! A mix up for sure, but you took the high road.

Agree. DCA-ATL, no big deal. ATL-NRT, huge deal.

HongKonger Aug 8, 2014 12:12 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 23329085)
No, he seems to have shown the boarding pass to at least the FA and possibly one GA too. However, although he stated that he received the email two days in advance, I suspect that he didn't show the email to the FA/GA, at least not in a way that they could verify it. It would also seem like a servious risk to try to fly with a self-altered boarding pass.

Is it possible that, before the OP arrived at the gate, Mr 2A behaved so badly to the GAs that they deliberately created duplicate seat assignments giving the OP 2A so that Mr 2A could be kicked back to coach as punishment/retaliation? [If so, they were nice not to give him the a midle seat in the last row of coach or a seat next to a lap brat or a COS.] I'm trying to figure out why the GAs were so adamant that the OP owned 2A if it had been assigned to the DYKWIA earlier.

Quite a flight of fancy.

And we're back to calling all children brats by default? I guess we need to find some insulting blanket term for all economists.

rajsh Aug 8, 2014 12:29 am


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 23328374)
Not so sure. DL would not have held the flight while Mr. 2A sorted things out. As soon as he popped off the aircraft, OP could haave taken his seat, the flight closed, pushed and been at ATL while 2A was still yacking with somebody about the issue.

Not sure they would have closed the door ... especially if he had luggage checked in and stowed away under the plane ... that would have probably caused a further delay to find it and unload it ... so 2A ... probably knew that ...

IceTrojan Aug 8, 2014 12:58 am

I'm going to be another contrarian and say that you didn't do anyone any favors by ceding your seat to the usuper, because it will create that expectation in the future when it happens again:

- if he truly poached the seat, then he'll keep trying.
- if he truly was downgraded because of a swap, tough cookies, what is the new Mr./Mrs./Ms./Miss./M. supposed to do, cede as well?

Once he got up, you should've sat yourself down. I highly doubt the crew would delay the flight just because Mr. 2A throws a fit to get back int other seat... he'd either take 11C, or they would boot him off the flight.

Yes, you definitely took the high road, kudos to you. But was the result actually a good thing?

CJKatl Aug 8, 2014 1:12 am


Originally Posted by kop84 (Post 23328354)
My guess is that he got an upgrade. Printed the BP then made a change to a different part of his reservation potentially requiring the downgrade back to Y. He re-checked in but kept his original BP.

I too would like to commend you for being the bigger person.

A version of this happened to me last month. Maybe something like this happened with Mr. 2A who didn't move...

I was booked ORF-ATL-XXX. ORF-ATL was delayed, so they rebooked me on a later flight, which meant a later connecting flight, too. My later ORF-ATL flight arrived in ATL with enough time for me to (barely) make the original ATL-XXX flight, even though I had been moved to a later connecting flight. My UG had cleared for the original connecting flight, but I lost it in the rebooking process and wound up as a SB passenger in the back.

Meantime, I still had the boarding passes on my phone for all the flights. I could have easily said my original F seat was mine and shown a boarding pass to back that up, despite the fact I had been reassigned to the back.

ddng Aug 8, 2014 1:49 am


Originally Posted by lsugolfer (Post 23329090)
I was the Mr. 2A a few years ago after being upgraded at the window and an equip swap occurred later, despite the same amount of seats my assignment was never confirmed after the swap.

Except I was booted to coach.

This was likely the situation. I've had the upgrade before and then there was a plane switch. Lost my upgrade as the list was refreshed to include a last minute flyer with better status.

There was a reason but I think the GA/FA were probably too dumbfounded by 2A's attitude to find he right answer.

kettle1 Aug 8, 2014 2:24 am


Originally Posted by rajsh (Post 23329338)
Not sure they would have closed the door ... especially if he had luggage checked in and stowed away under the plane ... that would have probably caused a further delay to find it and unload it ... so 2A ... probably knew that ...

Domestic flts they do not unload luggage. Once he hit the jetway and wanted a supervisor, that's it. Two agents checked and he was in the wrong seat. DL (or any airline) would not delay a flt for this. He would have seen the plane push back while waiting for a supervisor.

To the OP: I would not have budged and the agents had your back. 2 agents! You just wanted to get home, without delaying the flt. I understand, but this person was wrong. I doubt DL would delay this flt for this.

THE BAGS DO NOT NEED TO REMOVED - DOMESTIC. (Not to yell). :)

It was your seat, validated by two agents. More power to the OP, I guess. :)

us2 Aug 8, 2014 4:17 am


Originally Posted by medichill (Post 23328363)
I look forward to reading your next post where you were unexpectedly upgraded on a long flight. You did the nice thing and I'm sure it will come back to you.

And Mr. 2A will wind up in a middle seat in the last row of a 753 with a tight connection. :eek:

I commend the OP for their handling of the situation. ^

Crazyhotelguy Aug 8, 2014 6:16 am


Originally Posted by CJKatl (Post 23329426)
A version of this happened to me last month. Maybe something like this happened with Dr yMr. 2A who didn't move...

I was booked ORF-ATL-XXX. ORF-ATL was delayed, so they rebooked me on a later flight, which meant a later connecting flight, too. My later ORF-ATL flight arrived in ATL with enough time for me to (barely) make the original ATL-XXX flight, even though I had been moved to a later connecting flight. My UG had cleared for the original connecting flight, but I lost it in the rebooking process and wound up as a SB passenger in the back.

Meantime, I still had the boarding passes on my phone for all the flights. I could have easily said my original F seat was mine and shown a boarding pass to back that up, despite the fact I had been reassigned to the back.

Very likely the case. I have been in this situation before with all original documentation. I am still trying to figure out where this exotic XXX destination is though :)

I commend the OP for taking the high road, but I am not dure I would have done the same, especially eith staff backing me up... There is definitely more to the story. ..

In this case the alternative seat is an aisle in EC on a short hop. What if it were a middle in E- on a transcon?

G0H0KIES Aug 8, 2014 6:53 am

I would gladly take OP's 2A seat and give him 44B anytime on the mod 752 for the sake of not delaying the flight :D

Just kidding, big ^ to the OP!

CJKatl Aug 8, 2014 6:59 am


Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy (Post 23330261)
Very likely the case. I have been in this situation before with all original documentation. I am still trying to figure out where this exotic XXX destination is though :)

Sadly, when I was typing the post I couldn't remember where I was headed. :o EIther I need to slow down the travel or age is catching up...

And, for the record, the OP is what my grandparents used to call a mensch.

PRWeezer Aug 8, 2014 7:11 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 23328941)
Yes, although when a bunch of people are boarding at once, the person getting the printed little seat receipt can be in the jetway before the paper pops out of the printer and by then it can be unclear to whom it belongs. This was my experience when I played GA for the day at the DL ATL DO...

The receipt that pops out has the pax name, seat assignment, city pairings, flight #/date, and is noted Operated By: DELTA AIR LINES INC with a barcode at the bottom. Very clear to whom it belongs.


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