To many pilots it may be a big deal. Its more than just seating. You get a better rest when there isnt a passenger next to you.

^ I'm glad someone else understands my position. If it really is such an issue of safety then perhaps seat 1B just needs to be removed.

Since I was not privy to the negotiations over this, this is sheer speculation, but it could well be that this was what the pilots pushed for and what resulted was this compromise as the company was not willing to lose potential revenue from eliminating a seat. Let's face it: crew rest in the passenger cabin is far less desirable than the crew rest modules on larger aircraft that are completely removed from all noise and distraction. But since the 757 was not designed for transatlantic operations (it was originally envisioned as a 727 replacement) this is what you're left with.

Has anyone considered my earlier post - - quoted just above?

Here's the scenario:

PHL or PIT to CDG. One BE seat left minutes before departure. A DM inquires about being able to use his/her GUC which is already noted / coded in the record. GA says, sorry, but that seat has to remain open next to the pilot rest area.

Any thoughts?

An interesting scenario for sure. And I'm betting whatever the outcome, it would not be consistent. Some gate agents may go ahead and process the upgrade while another may give you a dirty look and tell you that letting you sit in 1B could potentially jeopardize the safety of the flight. :eek:

question, if you could have a row to yourself or sit next to someone, which are you going to pick? If its the first then why are you to good to sit next to someone? ;)

Most people don't enjoy having to climb over the PAX in 1B to get to 1A. (or any window seat) Thus part of the PWA is that the seat should be filled last.

I really don't understand why its because they think they are "too good". Its more like being logical. ;)

Not trying to argue with you by any means and I don't mean any sarcasm when I say this. But wouldn't it just be a batter idea to have the pilot sit in seat 1B? That way he/she wouldn't have to climb over someone else.

And yes, if I'm sitting in the main cabin then it is nice to have the seat next to you open. But I would never complain about someone sitting next to me or have the gate agent keep that seat open unless it's absolutely necessary. I would also prefer to have a corner office but see if I don't get laughed out of the next meeting with my boss if I make that request. Life is about give and tank. That pilot should have no trouble sleeping with an eye mask and the noise canceling headphones.

Then you have the passenger climbing over the pilot which causes similar problems. Window works better as the goal is to fall asleep and not have distractions like getting bumped, light from the galley etc

On the UA TATL 757 flights the seat next to the crew rest seat must be the last BusinessFirst seat assigned. Nonrevs can't be upgraded into it. Not sure about revenue pax though. For a while the pilots were saying the adjacent seat was to be the last seat assigned on the entire aircraft but I believe that was clarified to mean last seat assigned in the BusinessFirst cabin.

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popcorn has been good as I watch this one. I think the op is just off. Give me anything that had the potential to increase safety over a seat selection. a very first world problem.

The issue is though, that as I said upthread, if it's for safety, then it should be "all the time" and not "some of the time". If it's truly about safety, then why is the airline allowed to sell the last seat next to the pilot crew rest seat and put profits ahead of passenger safety? Is there a safety difference to the plane if the premium cabin is full and the seat next to the pilot crew rest is occupied versus if the cabin isn't full and the seat next to the pilot crew rest if still occupied?

Some of you are acting as if the business elite cabin on the 757 is just is one big party from takeoff to landing. Passengers, are most likely eating, sleeping, watching tv, reading, or using a PED. The flight attendants aren't walking around passing out shots and blaring the latest dance hits over the speakers. I can't think of any reason for the pilot being disrupted to the point that he/she is no longer able to perform their duties. As I said before, a sleep mask and some noise canceling headphones should be perfectly adequate.

+1

You run into A-Rod in the BE cabin on one of your flights? ;)

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Still a first world problem

Likely both NRSA

Seriously, go on Instragram and search hashtag #businesselite. I swear 75% of the pics are NRSA BPs, seems very few people actually pay to fly DL BE.