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Originally Posted by jkatzen
(Post 21809168)
Since no one really stated it in a way that's fully clear . . .
It has nothing to do with L vs T class. Those both will earn 100% mileage if booked directly through Delta. If you purchase those tickets through another travel agent, they might be special versions of fares called "consolidator fares" and will only earn 25% mileage. It's a new rule in 2013. There's no easy way to know whether you'll get the full mileage or 25% mileage just by the single-letter fare class. You'll need to either call Delta on your ticket after it's booked or else use a service like Expert Flyer (with some training) to identify whether or not it's a consolidator fare. (It's sort of a complicated process, but you can compare the 5-letter full fare class--starting with "L" or "T" in your case--from the detailed fare rules, with a list of published fares on Expert Flyer. If it's not in the Expert Flyer list, it's generally an unpublished consolidator fare.) If your company will let you book your own tickets, buy them through Delta.com and you'll always get full mileage. |
Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 21809524)
"Special" T fares earn 25%. L fares earn 50%. OP's employer is buying T now, not L, which is causing his dilemma.
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Originally Posted by mAAine_flyer
(Post 21809183)
Certainly not the norm. Count yourself lucky...or part of the problem of high tuition rates.
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So what kind of a shady arrangement do they have that they are purchasing multiple international tickets through a consolidator regularly? Don't mean to be snide, but I have some issues with employers who make it a habit of buying tickets that way, especially since those tickets can be treated worse in case of delays or cancellations.
You're not going to get around the reduced earning with them buying tickets through an opaque 3rd party. Are they even saving much over the standard published T fares? |
Originally Posted by knoa_knows
(Post 21808711)
Hell, I am in academia and they fly me business for such a long flight.
Originally Posted by mAAine_flyer
(Post 21809183)
Certainly not the norm. Count yourself lucky...or part of the problem of high tuition rates.
(Though most academic travel doesn't come out of tuition dollars; in my field, it's all federal grant money, which helps subsidize the teaching mission of most US research universities. But no way, no how are governments going to explain paying for business class for academics to politicians' constituents, most of whom don't understand the realities of business travel.)
Originally Posted by FFSnoopy
(Post 21809566)
Exactly right. I know that its an unpublished fare, its always cut down, now all the way to 25% its not even worth it to keep using my delta FF number. However, with Alaska, I can make at least their middle tier for status. Plus have about 72,000 miles or so for booking flights.
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Originally Posted by rylan
(Post 21809797)
So what kind of a shady arrangement do they have that they are purchasing multiple international tickets through a consolidator regularly? Don't mean to be snide, but I have some issues with employers who make it a habit of buying tickets that way, especially since those tickets can be treated worse in case of delays or cancellations.
You're not going to get around the reduced earning with them buying tickets through an opaque 3rd party. Are they even saving much over the standard published T fares? I'm just trying not to give out my company's name here is all. They are flying quite a few people down to Brazil on similar rotations as me. They even have their own travel agency. Thus they take advantage of these low rate tickets because they buy so many of them (at least from what I can gather that's how they get it). I'm assuming they're saving quite a bit. Believe me, it's aggravating to not make any sort of status, and really wish there was another way, but unfortunately not. |
Any Diamond's out there wanna gift me Gold status? :)
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Originally Posted by FFSnoopy
(Post 21809825)
I'm just trying not to give out my company's name here is all. They are flying quite a few people down to Brazil on similar rotations as me. They even have their own travel agency. Thus they take advantage of these low rate tickets because they buy so many of them (at least from what I can gather that's how they get it). I'm assuming they're saving quite a bit. Believe me, it's aggravating to not make any sort of status, and really wish there was another way, but unfortunately not.
From a business point of view, the company's approach seems entirely sensible to me, much as I'd dislike it from a frequent flyer point of view. I don't understand the argument that it's better to pay more for a service than the company has to, assuming there are no negative impacts on IRROPS handling and that the company is factoring in any costs of changing tickets. At the end of the day, consolidator fares put you in the same seat published fares put you in. But it seems strange that the company can't negotiate contracted fares that do as well as the consolidator prices but still count as "published" fares. |
If its a 'well known' corporate travel agency you should be getting full earning credit... but if its 'another' travel agent who is getting whatever tickets they can find then nothing you can do.
If you have corporate negotiated fares then you should be earning full credit as mentioned. |
Originally Posted by FFSnoopy
(Post 21809838)
Any Diamond's out there wanna gift me Gold status? :)
Just a few minutes too late. |
Originally Posted by ashill
(Post 21809802)
(Though most academic travel doesn't come out of tuition dollars; in my field, it's all federal grant money, which helps subsidize the teaching mission of most US research universities. But no way, no how are governments going to explain paying for business class for academics to politicians' constituents, most of whom don't understand the realities of business travel.)
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Also keep in mind that PM status doesn't offer any benefits on your long laugh flight ATL-GIG. Unless you select SWU's as your medallion choice. And then you need M+ fare to use that so that won't help you.
Just not sure your complaint is worth the juice from that squeeze. PM is nice but unless you have other domestic travel its not going to be that beneficial. Except mileage award changes without a fee. That's about it. |
Originally Posted by mridley2
(Post 21810278)
Also keep in mind that PM status doesn't offer any benefits on your long laugh flight ATL-GIG. Unless you select SWU's as your medallion choice. And then you need M+ fare to use that so that won't help you.
Just not sure your complaint is worth the juice from that squeeze. PM is nice but unless you have other domestic travel its not going to be that beneficial. Except mileage award changes without a fee. That's about it. |
Originally Posted by dEagleS
(Post 21810339)
Free EC?
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GM+ get lounge access on SkyTeam international itineraries.
Before the OP decides to credit to AS, make sure that DL consolidator fares earn full miles on AS. Since DL supplies the info and pays for the miles, I wouldn't be surprised if they also tell AS to just give 25% credit on these fares. |
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