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kelvinj Aug 26, 2013 10:03 am


Originally Posted by SteveinA2 (Post 21326123)
The good

1. The new BE is great. Best part is the upgraded seats and food, especially the soup and pre-order of Japanese meal.
2. Love the fact employees verbally recognize Platinum and Diamond folks
3. Love some agents that help customers

The bad

1. Hate fact Delta don't value HVC. Have spent $32,000 on flown Delta flights in the last 6 weeks yet my Customer value score is unchanged at 32. Why an earth they don't have a diamond level based on spend is beyond my comprehension.
2. Hate fact BE cabin service does not go to HVC first. Why don't I get my meal choice when I paid $12,000 but a NRSA gets his.
3. Hate the fact they allow anyone in sky clubs...put up the price and maintain its exclusivity
4. Hate fact that I spend >$50K a year on Delta, but when I want to redeem a simple award to fly on vacation it is impossible
5. Hate fact SWU's don't apply to any fare like AA
6. Hate Choice benefits are so much worse than AA
7. Hate fact surveys that are emailed never focus on skymiles or service just seat quality and whether the window has scratches ???
8. Hate fact that there is never one award to South Africa on Delta less than 380,000...Kinda wondering why someone does not sue Delta for fraud on this route.


Wow, that's a whole lot of hate there. ;) But, then I saw that the OP lives in DC and it all makes sense now. The DC crowd is quite...well, I won't say.

Looking at "the bad" list, the third point is so interesting. I often wonder, on what grounds is it that people assert that some visitors to the Sky Club bring down the exclusivity of the room? I have come to learn that you can't truly predict someone's salary, pedigree, educational credentials, credit score, values, moral superiority, delta spend, or worthiness of being alive based on the way that they look in the Sky Club.

But, then again, the DC thing may come into play. I'm quite the anomaly here. Although I live in the District, I don't make it a habit of asking people in the sky club, nor those seated next to me on the plane, what they do and where they went to school (and without the simple courtesy of first asking their name or how their day is going). I simply say hello to people, even if they are unattractive (another abnormal habit of mine).

lsumegan Aug 26, 2013 10:38 am


Originally Posted by kelvinj (Post 21337731)
Wow, that's a whole lot of hate there. ;) But, then I saw that the OP lives in DC and it all makes sense now. The DC crowd is quite...well, I won't say.

Looking at "the bad" list, the third point is so interesting. I often wonder, on what grounds is it that people assert that some visitors to the Sky Club bring down the exclusivity of the room? I have come to learn that you can't truly predict someone's salary, pedigree, educational credentials, credit score, values, moral superiority, delta spend, or worthiness of being alive based on the way that they look in the Sky Club.

But, then again, the DC thing may come into play. I'm quite the anomaly here. Although I live in the District, I don't make it a habit of asking people in the sky club, nor those seated next to me on the plane, what they do and where they went to school (and without the simple courtesy of first asking their name or how their day is going). I simply say hello to people, even if they are unattractive (another abnormal habit of mine).

Your comments were very strange to me. You are the only one that brought up personal appearance. And since when is it "abnormal" to say hello to unattractive people?

rylan Aug 26, 2013 10:41 am

Several of those points belong in a DYKWIA type of thread.

The other points regarding SWUs and miles are valid.

bubbashow Aug 26, 2013 10:55 am

2. Hate fact BE cabin service does not go to HVC first. Why don't I get my meal choice when I paid $12,000 but a NRSA gets his.

This doesn't happen. I have flown paid J, I have flown NRSA. When NRSA, meal order was taken....on a few flights with tight entrees, I as asked for a backup each time. Paying customer always gets meal before NRSA.

5khours Aug 26, 2013 11:24 am

What I like.

1. Above average operational efficiency domestically.
2. Good domestic UG %

Here's what I don't like.

1. Still many international routes with no flat-bed seats.
2. Very average flat-bed seat despite being years behind the competition in putting these in.
3. No international F
4. No international F lounges
5. Terrible award redemption.
6. No international upgrades on reasonably priced fares.
7. SkyWars is a terrible alliance.
8. No international F awards on alliance partners.
9. Poor MM program.
10. Dishonest.

TrojanTraveler Aug 26, 2013 11:31 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 21338084)
2. Hate fact BE cabin service does not go to HVC first. Why don't I get my meal choice when I paid $12,000 but a NRSA gets his.

This doesn't happen. I have flown paid J, I have flown NRSA. When NRSA, meal order was taken....on a few flights with tight entrees, I as asked for a backup each time. Paying customer always gets meal before NRSA.

Generally true, but I have seen it happen. But it was a bad J crew to begin with...I think this would be an anamoly.

DLdweeb Aug 26, 2013 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 21327394)
...but we wish that both of them would fly Continental...

I really wish we could still fly Continental...:D

FlyAO2 Aug 26, 2013 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by SteveinA2 (Post 21326123)
...
1. Hate fact Delta don't value HVC. Have spent $32,000 on flown Delta flights in the last 6 weeks yet my Customer value score is unchanged at 32. Why an earth they don't have a diamond level based on spend is beyond my comprehension.
2. Hate fact BE cabin service does not go to HVC first. Why don't I get my meal choice when I paid $12,000 but a NRSA gets his.
3. Hate the fact they allow anyone in sky clubs...put up the price and maintain its exclusivity
....

1-3 are a rather trivial complaints and a bit douchey

Dovster Aug 26, 2013 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by DLdweeb (Post 21338540)
I really wish we could still fly Continental...:D

Given my age, and that of Cholula, we are put on planes with Continental markings so that we don't get confused.

(Sometimes, of course, I take TWA.)

rylan Aug 26, 2013 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 21338683)
Given my age, and that of Cholula, we are put on planes with Continental markings so that we don't get confused.

(Sometimes, of course, I take TWA.)

Do you fly in to the new Worldport T3 at JFK? :D

donb25 Aug 26, 2013 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 21338279)
What I like.

1. Above average operational efficiency domestically.
2. Good domestic UG %

Here's what I don't like.

1. Still many international routes with no flat-bed seats.
2. Very average flat-bed seat despite being years behind the competition in putting these in.
3. No international F
4. No international F lounges
5. Terrible award redemption.
6. No international upgrades on reasonably priced fares.
7. SkyWars is a terrible alliance.
8. No international F awards on alliance partners.
9. Poor MM program.
10. Dishonest.

Ditto

davetravels Aug 26, 2013 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 21338084)
This doesn't happen. I have flown paid J, I have flown NRSA. When NRSA, meal order was taken....on a few flights with tight entrees, I as asked for a backup each time. Paying customer always gets meal before NRSA.

Of course, I can't say that it never happens, but, a couple of years ago, I was flying BE to AMS. The FA was taking orders on the ground, asked me what I wanted, but completely ignored the young girl sitting next to me.

I eventually got the FA's attention and pointed out that she overlooked her, and was told that she would get whatever is left over. After some conversation with the girl, she told me that her mother was a pilot, and she was flying non-rev.

TheMadBrewer Aug 26, 2013 1:34 pm

Whenever I've gotten an OpUp I always provide a 2nd choice and say I'd take that if they run short of my first choice. It seems to be much appreciated by the FAs.


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