FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Delta Air Lines | SkyMiles (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles-665/)
-   -   Bye, Bye Beverage Carts ? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1464620-bye-bye-beverage-carts.html)

squatch May 6, 2013 11:01 am


Originally Posted by amejr999 (Post 20705603)
JetBlue does it on all flights, and WN does it on all flights other than on their 738s. The inflight crew comes through and takes orders from their assigned section, then delivers the orders on trays. Then they come through with a big snack basket. Works fine and customers like it.

absolutely. beverage service on jetblue is much quicker and more friendly than cart-based service.

i like this idea. ^

Renes Points May 6, 2013 11:42 am


Originally Posted by BobH (Post 20705393)
To say nothing of the catering issues.... sounds like a bad rumor to me.

Now on a 200 they might get away with it, but with the 200's hopefully going away....

<lol>

Bob H

I have had this many times now on the 100/200's (I know I know sorry for me on these tin cans out of SBN).

To me, there is no place for a cart on a CRJ 100/200. Much better to have the FA take orders and then go to galley.

MSPeconomist May 6, 2013 11:51 am

Aren't the carts also an efficient way for caterers to deliver provisions to the aircraft? I always thought that part of the reason for the carts was that the caterers load them up and then wheel the needed carts onto a particular aircraft, with the carts being interchangeable. Plane lands, its previous carts with the used stuff like empty cans and used glassware is taken off and then the new carts containing what is needed for the next flight are switched in. Quick and easy, with everything being loaded onto the designated cart in advance.

Not using carts for service and removing them to save weight (not space unless aircraft are reconfigured) are separate issues.

davetravels May 6, 2013 11:58 am


Originally Posted by bonoman (Post 20705361)
If anything, what would be driving it is the removal of the weight of the trolleys and the fuel cost savings if they just put in shelves instead.


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 20706491)
@:-) Plane lands, its previous carts with the used stuff like empty cans and used glassware is taken off and then the new carts containing what is needed for the next flight are switched in. @:-)

An excellent point! How much time & labor would be involved to mess around with loading & unloading shelves of multiple types of beverages in between flights at the gate? Surely, this would delay some flights.

Singleflyer May 6, 2013 12:02 pm

Yesterday on an MD-90 the PDB orders were taken an then served from a drink tray that had cut outs or dimples for about 12 cups. I thought it was unusual.

Maybe they will do it in 1st for the PDB to reduce the stopping of the boarding to serve a few PDB.

Just a thought

bonoman May 6, 2013 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 20706538)
An excellent point! How much time & labor would be involved to mess around with loading & unloading shelves of multiple types of beverages in between flights at the gate? Surely, this would delay some flights.

Both excellent points. I always assumed some of the mass on the carts was to keep them as grounded as possible during any turbulence to prevent injuries and other potential messes from trolleys dancing on overhead bins. I can see them engineering lighter carts meant only as vehicles. My sore backside after every flight tells me their value of a pound by the amount of cushion in my seat.

MSPeconomist May 6, 2013 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by bonoman (Post 20706573)
Both excellent points. I always assumed some of the mass on the carts was to keep them as grounded as possible during any turbulence to prevent injuries and other potential messes from trolleys dancing on overhead bins. I can see them engineering lighter carts meant only as vehicles. My sore backside after every flight tells me their value of a pound by the amount of cushion in my seat.

Good point about deliberately making the carts heavy. If they're going to be pulled out in the galley during flight, some of the same considerations would apply unless they could be firmly anchored to something else in the galley, which would make it then difficult or impossible to move a cart in use when FAs need to access something that's being blocked by the cart. Note that these carts are also employed as security devices when pilots and/or FAs must enter and exit the cockpit during flight, for example for lavatory breaks or to give F&B to cockpit crew.

davetravels May 6, 2013 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 20706608)
Note that these carts are also employed as security devices when pilots and/or FAs must enter and exit the cockpit during flight. . . .

Ahhh yes, that newfangled "Cockpit Blocker" thing! :D

MSPeconomist May 6, 2013 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 20706678)
Ahhh yes, that newfangled "Cockpit Blocker" thing! :D

if the cart can't stop drunk celebrities from peeing and defecating on it, then the cart probably won't stop an adrenaline driven terrorist or crazed druggie from either moving it or leaping over the thing.

bonoman May 6, 2013 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 20706716)
if the cart can't stop drunk celebrities from peeing and defecating on it, then the cart probably won't stop an adrenaline driven terrorist or crazed druggie from either moving it or leaping over the thing.

Don't forget the 85lb FA asking F to stay seated during the "procedure". That's two deterrents!

MSPeconomist May 6, 2013 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by bonoman (Post 20706737)
Don't forget the 85lb FA asking F to stay seated during the "procedure". That's two deterrents!

When have you seem an 85 pound FA? IIRC there's a minimum height requirement, so they can't be too tiny, and 85 pounds for an adult within that height range would be anorexic. Even if such a person would pass the medical exam, they might fail on the required moves, such as opening heavy emergency exit doors.

bonoman May 6, 2013 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 20706747)
when have you seem an 85 pound FA? IIRC there's a minimum height requirement, so they can't be too tiny, and 85 pounds for an adult within that height range would be anorexic.

Twas a bit of sarcasm. I'm going to have to look that emoticon up.

I just find it amusing that they stand guard and have to ask people to sit. Anyone that can go fling themselves over the cart would level one of those poor gals.

MSPeconomist May 6, 2013 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by bonoman (Post 20706762)
Twas a bit of sarcasm. I'm going to have to look that emoticon up.

I just find it amusing that they stand guard and have to ask people to sit. Anyone that can go fling themselves over the cart would level one of those poor gals.

A lot of the FAs I see performing the cockpit guarding duty look absolutely beefy, with a stance and expression that one would expect on a prison guard.

rylan May 6, 2013 12:45 pm

Some of the FAs I've seen on KE have to got be easily under 100lbs.

MSPeconomist May 6, 2013 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by rylan (Post 20706825)
Some of the FAs I've seen on KE have to got be easily under 100lbs.

85 < 100.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:05 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.