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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Dec 5, 2017, 7:53 am
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Yeah I realize I might be at the whim of an agent...
Also need to go back and check, but wasn't thinking about the 4hr max stopover - I'm used to the Int'l 24hour rule.

Thanks though! ^

Originally Posted by pvn
In theory, yes, you can only SDC to valid routings, and not only that, you can only SDC to a routing that is allowed by your fare rules.

In practice, some agents will let you get away with a lot of weird stuff if there's confirmable space available.
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Old Dec 5, 2017, 8:18 am
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maybe but I don't really see what difference that makes in this discussion (people complaining (without any particular evidence) that SDCs are eating up all their upgrades). In the long run SDCs should have a net zero effect on upgrades.
They're not noticed; if I SDC before checking in, they never knew I was supposed to be ahead of them on the list.

Now with the app doing auto-checkin, that might change. But they still might not notice.
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Old Dec 5, 2017, 8:20 am
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We're not talking about the upgrade list, we're talking about people with confirmed F seats SDCing directly into a F seat.
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Old Dec 5, 2017, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by pvn
We're not talking about the upgrade list, we're talking about people with confirmed F seats SDCing directly into a F seat.
Which lowers the chance of someone else getting an upgrade to F on the flight they SDCd to (and increases it on the flight they SDCd from).
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Old Dec 5, 2017, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by pvn
maybe but I don't really see what difference that makes in this discussion (people complaining (without any particular evidence) that SDCs are eating up all their upgrades). In the long run SDCs should have a net zero effect on upgrades.
SDC doesn't have an impact on the total number of upgrades (versus how they're distributed or who receives them) unless one of the flights (either the old one or the new flight) will have open FC seats to give to nonrevs at the gate or fly empty.

My point was that DL should be relatively happy to see us SDC from later to earlier flights, although if this becomes too easy, more people might buy cheaper tickets on the last flight of the day and plan to SDC (rahter than SDS) to their earlier preferred flight that would have been more expensive. My argument is basically that seats on a particular flight are a perishable commodity.

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Old Dec 5, 2017, 10:56 am
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It's not much of an argument, nobody disputes that seats are perishable.

The idea that the earlier flight is more expensive might be true in some cases, but it's clearly not a hard and fast rule. There are obviously cases where it goes in the opposite direction.
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Old Dec 5, 2017, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
My point was that DL should be relatively happy to see us SDC from later to earlier flights, although if this becomes too easy, more people might buy cheaper tickets on the last flight of the day and plan to SDC (rahter than SDS) to their earlier preferred flight that would have been more expensive. My argument is basically that seats on a particular flight are a perishable commodity.
That's a better argument for SDS than SDC. SDC can take a seat that would otherwise have sold, or even create an oversold flight.
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Old Dec 6, 2017, 6:34 pm
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SDS Co-Terminal Change for DM

Can anyone confirm for me whether SDS is possible a on a coterminal change? For example, could I get on standby for LGA-DTW-XXX if I was originally ticketed on EWR-DTW-XXX and there’s not confirmed availability in my fare class?
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Coterminal SDC permitted for DM pax.
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Old Dec 6, 2017, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by funflier
Coterminal SDC permitted for DM pax.
Asking about coterminal same day standby, not confirmed
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Old Dec 6, 2017, 9:01 pm
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It's an unpublished DM benefit for SDC, so the only way to find out is to try. Call and ask.

I'd think the other way around (e.g. ticketed MSP-LGA, stand by for earlier MSP-JFK) is safer.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 11:27 am
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Booked in Paid First (D Fare) can I SDC into any coach ticket ( Y Fare or less) as no 1st available on the flight I want. Bonus question, where would I be on upgrade priority? Does Paid 1st go ahead of RUC?
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPDeltaDude
Booked in Paid First (D Fare) can I SDC into any coach ticket ( Y Fare or less) as no 1st available on the flight I want. Bonus question, where would I be on upgrade priority? Does Paid 1st go ahead of RUC?
This has been done though YMMV as technically it's only "any premium cabin inventory" and not Y class. However it is listed that Comfort+ can SDC into Main Cabin if no Comfort+ seats are available, so not sure if they can apply the same logic/over-ride to F > Y.

With regard to upgrade priority, with a voluntary downgrade, you should be able to be waitlisted for F rather than on the upgrade list? If waitlist doesn't clear, at gate you should be higher on the upgrade list than anyone using upgrade instruments if you are on a premium cabin ticket but no premium inventory is available.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 9:52 am
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This is one of the better benefits that Delta offers. I was 1 of 9 for 2 FC seats on my flight but SDS'd to an earlier flight. Even got a c+ which i didnt expect.
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Old Dec 19, 2017, 1:56 pm
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I have an SDC question and appreciate any help anyone can provide.

I am currently booked MYR-ATL-MSP-SLC and I would like to SDC to MYR-ATL-SLC.

Delta's Same Day Travel page has this note: "Same-Day Confirmed changes from connection to non-stop flights are not permitted."

Anyone know if going from two stops to one stop is covered by this rule? By removing a connection, am I changing to a non-stop?
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