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samwise6222 Dec 27, 2013 2:29 pm

DL told me today that all the flight that I have already booked next year won't count for MQDs... as they will only count MQDs for the flights booked starting 1/1/14.

There goes my 1Q and half of 2Q 2014 flights :(



Originally Posted by DLmedalliongold (Post 22006558)
So DL is not helping anyone within 100 MQMs to jump over? I guess that makes sense, have to draw the line somewhere. My significant other will be at 49,943. We have the outbound trip to MSY on the 30th that will get him to 49943, but thinking we should SDC if possible to connect through MSP or MEM to get him over the edge.


I had 49,998 and they told me to go pound sand... thankfully some random 250MQM offer kicked in :)

HongKonger Dec 27, 2013 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by samwise6222 (Post 22036766)
DL told me today that all the flight that I have already booked next year won't count for MQDs... as they will only count MQDs for the flights booked starting 1/1/14.

There goes my 1Q and half of 2Q 2014 flights :(

I think the agent must have been mistaken. It has been established since MQD was announced that MQDs accrue at the time of flight, not at the time of booking. To do otherwise would be ridiculous.

sethb Dec 27, 2013 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by samwise6222 (Post 22036766)
I had 49,998 and they told me to go pound sand... thankfully some random 250MQM offer kicked in :)

There goes 24,998 carryover.

amanuensis Dec 27, 2013 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 22036906)
I think the agent must have been mistaken. It has been established since MQD was announced that MQDs accrue at the time of flight, not at the time of booking. To do otherwise would be ridiculous.

I think everyone in the thread (including me) agreed back when MQDs were announced that doing otherwise would be ridiculous. But I don't recall where Delta subsequently actually ever said precisely what the rules were about when MQDs accrue. But of course Delta never does anything ridiculous. :D

samwise6222 Dec 27, 2013 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 22036906)
I think the agent must have been mistaken. It has been established since MQD was announced that MQDs accrue at the time of flight, not at the time of booking. To do otherwise would be ridiculous.

‏@DeltaAssist
Yes, MQDs count for the year in which they're bought. *WG
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4:36 PM - 27 Dec 13


I contacted regarding booking a AF ticket on a 006 ticket, and was told to wait until Jan 1 to book it since it won't count towards MQD if I were to book it this year.

amanuensis Dec 27, 2013 10:19 pm

So ... according to Delta Assist, all I need to do to make the MQD requirement is to buy a bunch of full-fare refundable tickets on 31 Dec 2014. BUT, what if I then cancel all of those tickets on 1 Jan 2015?

bdschobel Dec 28, 2013 2:45 am

I don't believe what they told you. The MQDs don't appear in your account until the flights are taken, so buying a million dollars worth of tickets on 12/31 will do you no good -- unless you use a Delta AMEX card, of course.

Bruce

Xeno Dec 28, 2013 6:10 am


Originally Posted by samwise6222 (Post 22038352)
‏@DeltaAssist
Yes, MQDs count for the year in which they're bought. *WG
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4:36 PM - 27 Dec 13


I contacted regarding booking a AF ticket on a 006 ticket, and was told to wait until Jan 1 to book it since it won't count towards MQD if I were to book it this year.

I hope @DeltaAssist is wrong otherwise I am ruined for 2014 having already bought over half of the expensive MBYZ tickets for 2014.

BrianMcM Dec 28, 2013 2:14 pm

Delta "E" Fare Class eliminates the value of loyalty
 
I don't like to complain about business practices of various product and service providers. I normally extol the virtues of free markets and figure that consumers can vote with their feet. But when a supplier or provider makes an explicit promise and then reneges on that promise, it becomes more than a market issue, and advances to one of honesty and integrity. When that supplier has near-monopoly power, it becomes a case of public concern.

Minneapolis / St. Paul is a Delta Airlines hub. Those of us who fly for a living have few choices when it comes to which airline to choose. For those who must travel please be aware that Delta has come out with an "E" class ticket (for Economy). This ticket is definitely "back of the bus" status. If you buy one of these gems, which I am forced to buy according to my company's corporate travel policy that requires buying a low price ticket (like most company travel policies), it renders useless my frequent flyer status. So, my Diamond Frequent Flyer status and my 2 million miles on Delta are now considered worthless by the airline.

Delta has turned every seat on a plane into a bidding contest regardless of loyalty programs. So why does Delta even offer such a program? I pointed out in an email to Delta customer service that I fly Delta rather than other airlines precisely because I receive seating preference (why else would I often pay more)? I often pay much less on other airlines and get the same poor seating choices (middle of the row and in the back). It seems that is my future. Delta has made airline loyalty a thing of the past.

In my opinion, this is what monopoly power does to consumers. Where is the US Justice Department on airline monopolies? How are they protecting the consumer? It has been years since Justice has brought any anti-trust case to court. It seems the airlines' power has become too concentrated and something should be done to break them up. Certainly, the new American Airlines and US Airways merger should be challenged and not passed casually through court. Perhaps Justice should examine if Delta's concentration of power best serves the public interest.

AA_EXP09 Dec 28, 2013 5:01 pm

I checked quite a few city pairs that are frequented by me...
SEALON has no E fare basis
SEAHKG has no E fare basis
SEALAX has no E fare basis
SEASFO has no E fare basis
SEANYC has no E fare basis
SEAFLL has no E fare basis
and so on...

Xeno Dec 28, 2013 8:07 pm


Originally Posted by samwise6222 (Post 22038352)
‏@DeltaAssist
Yes, MQDs count for the year in which they're bought. *WG
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4:36 PM - 27 Dec 13


I contacted regarding booking a AF ticket on a 006 ticket, and was told to wait until Jan 1 to book it since it won't count towards MQD if I were to book it this year.

I just glanced at my MQDs and it seems that the amount shown is only counting 2013 and not the $10K I have already spent for 2014.

Can anyone else be more precise when looking at your current MQD total?

NapaPatTours Dec 28, 2013 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by Xeno (Post 22042901)
I just glanced at my MQDs and it seems that the amount shown is only counting 2013 and not the $10K I have already spent for 2014.

Can anyone else be more precise when looking at your current MQD total?

Spend for flights FLOWN is showing current. Spend for upcoming flights is not yet posted (as expected).

HongKonger Dec 29, 2013 7:59 am


Originally Posted by BrianMcM (Post 22041596)
Like all "free market capitalists," I don't like the free market so much when it negatively affects me.

fixed your post

Xeno Dec 29, 2013 8:17 am


Originally Posted by NapaPatTours (Post 22043454)
Spend for flights FLOWN is showing current. Spend for upcoming flights is not yet posted (as expected).

Is that not, then, evidence of a sort that tickets purchased in 2013 but flown in 2014 will record MQDs only in the year of the actual flight rather than the purchase?

bdschobel Dec 29, 2013 8:23 am

Yes, of course.

Bruce


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