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pianistat Apr 12, 2012 9:33 am

Question: Baggage Fee
 
Hello all,
I have a reward trip scheduled in a month.
I am regular Delta Skymiles member and by the rules I believe I have to pay baggage fee of 25 each way.
But I used to have the Gold AMEX Card, which I canceled 2 year ago.
I still keep the card (shows expiration 06/13), Just called Delta and they said that it shows at their system that I am a member with Gold card and they will waive the fee if I show the card when checking-in.
What do you think about this situation, would it go smoothly?
Do they need to swipe the card or just to see it? (Asking because I actually scratched the magnetic field of the card after I cancelled it):(

mpp Apr 12, 2012 10:25 am

Login to Skymiles. It will say there if you are a cardholder. They won't need to see it at the airport. Also when you check in online you can see if it gives you a free bag.

bubbashow Apr 12, 2012 11:56 am

So....you are trying to get a benefit for which you do not qualify? Hmmm...hope it doesn't work. Pay your $25. If you can't afford it, you probably shouldn't fly. If you can't be honest, you probably shouldn't fly.

dcline414 Apr 12, 2012 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 18380903)
So....you are trying to get a benefit for which you do not qualify? Hmmm...hope it doesn't work. Pay your $25. If you can't afford it, you probably shouldn't fly. If you can't be honest, you probably shouldn't fly.

+1

If you're flying international, you get one bag for free.

If flying domestic, you can pay for FC or renew your DL AmEx account.

Delta has too much domestic baggage anyway, and should be requiring zones 2-4 to check bags or not carry on to ensure on time departures.

OP, I do hope you are able to find an affordable solution to get your bags to your destination, but I think Delta is generally too accommodating in the baggage department to ensure on-time departures.

jsmith50 Apr 12, 2012 12:39 pm

I find it a bit ironic that on a board known for teaching people to game the system and qualify for or receive benefits that they should not otherwise receive, that anyone would be so blatant as to attack the OP for asking a question about getting a free bag for a card that shows active in the DL system. By the letter of the law, does the OP qualify for the free bag with a cancelled AmEx? No! However, if the AmEx system and the DL system don't communicate better than that and his card shows active in the DL system, when he goes to check in online, it should allow him to select a checked bag at no charge. The OP never said he couldn't afford the $25 fee, he simply asked a question and, in the far-too-often FT way, got flamed for it!

Good luck OP!

HongKonger Apr 12, 2012 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by pianistat (Post 18379839)
Hello all,
I have a reward trip scheduled in a month.
I am regular Delta Skymiles member and by the rules I believe I have to pay baggage fee of 25 each way.
But I used to have the Gold AMEX Card, which I canceled 2 year ago.
I still keep the card (shows expiration 06/13), Just called Delta and they said that it shows at their system that I am a member with Gold card and they will waive the fee if I show the card when checking-in.
What do you think about this situation, would it go smoothly?
Do they need to swipe the card or just to see it? (Asking because I actually scratched the magnetic field of the card after I cancelled it):(

What other stuff do you steal?

HongKonger Apr 12, 2012 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 18380903)
So....you are trying to get a benefit for which you do not qualify? Hmmm...hope it doesn't work. Pay your $25. If you can't afford it, you probably shouldn't fly. If you can't be honest, you probably shouldn't fly.

One of those rare times when I am in complete agreement with you.

HongKonger Apr 12, 2012 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by jsmith50 (Post 18381213)
I find it a bit ironic that on a board known for teaching people to game the system and qualify for or receive benefits that they should not otherwise receive, that anyone would be so blatant as to attack the OP for asking a question about getting a free bag for a card that shows active in the DL system. By the letter of the law, does the OP qualify for the free bag with a cancelled AmEx? No! However, if the AmEx system and the DL system don't communicate better than that and his card shows active in the DL system, when he goes to check in online, it should allow him to select a checked bag at no charge. The OP never said he couldn't afford the $25 fee, he simply asked a question and, in the far-too-often FT way, got flamed for it!

Good luck OP!

Where on the DL board does this occur regularly? (I only read the DL board.) In most threads I see that people trying to get benefits they aren't entitled to or do things like hidden city ticketing are told the truth of the matter. I rarely see people on the DL board encourage dishonesty or theft of services.

jsmith50 Apr 12, 2012 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by HongKonger (Post 18381264)
Where on the DL board does this occur regularly? (I only read the DL board.) In most threads I see that people trying to get benefits they aren't entitled to or do things like hidden city ticketing are told the truth of the matter. I rarely see people on the DL board encourage dishonesty or theft of services.

How about an entire thread of people willing to guest in non-SC members. In effect, this is 'robbing' DL of the cost of a day pass admission for someone who should otherwise not likely be in the SC. We could apply the same logic as those that have attacked the OP in this thread and say, "if you can't afford to buy a day pass and you don't otherwise have membership, you don't deserve to be in the SC." Secondly, many have posted on here about learning to 'game' the system to book award tix, gain access to a post-security lounge by buying a refundable ticket (despite the rules clearly saying, you have access only day of travel), etc.

In this case, if the OP's card shows active in the DL system, it's a moot point because when he goes to check in online, the system isn't going to charge him anyway. I didn't say, I agreed with the OP, only that he has identified a loop hole in the system that links DL and AmEx that apparently a cancelled card continues to show active in the DL system. His post is just asking "what do you think about this situation?" and yet he's getting flamed for it!

Often1 Apr 12, 2012 1:00 pm

CC Fraud. OP's question isn't whether his card is active. He knows that it's not. His question is whether DL shows that it's "active." It's one thing to show people how they can get benefits they deserve. It's another to ask how to fraudulently assert that you have a card which you know you don't.

HongKonger Apr 12, 2012 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 18381336)
CC Fraud. OP's question isn't whether his card is active. He knows that it's not. His question is whether DL shows that it's "active." It's one thing to show people how they can get benefits they deserve. It's another to ask how to fraudulently assert that you have a card which you know you don't.

EXACTLY.

JSmith, like it or not, people who are entitled to guest someone into the SC can guest in anyone they like. So long as the pax are following the T&Cs there is nothing wrong with it, and it's certainly not theft. If DL didn't want people doing this they could end it instantly by requiring guests to be on the same PNR or at least have the same itinerary (business associates may have separate tickets).

Explain how people are gaming the system by booking award tix?


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