I hate Haneda
 

I originally selected Northwest as my airline of choice since they had the best routing to SouthEast Asia through Narita. With the addition of Haneda I've noticed that not only have the base award redemptions gone up but the lowest point offers are routed through Haneda which causes 20 hour layovers in Tokyo and itineraries from the US midwest that top 50 hours. If you want a Narita itinerary then their awards have doubled.

I'm thinking of moving my purchased ticket business to United so I don't get so screwed on the award redemptions.

Thank you for reading my venting.

I don't think poor HND deserves such mean comments. ;)

always try to redeem on partners (CZ/MU/MH/VN/soon CI) to southeast asia.

I Think You Should Jump Ship
 

First, NW has not existed in several years. Second, go ahead and jump. That leaves more seats for us and fewer people in the DL SkyClubs.

Shouldn't you "hate" DL instead? You seem :confused:ed.

This is not a problem with HND, but a problem with the Central Bank of SkyMiles having allowed the destruction of the puchasing power of a SkyMile over the last 1.5 years. CO and UA do not have this problem.

By the way, if you're going to HND then connecting to an intra-Asia flight ex-NRT, you'll need the 20-hour layover to travel between the 2 airports.

Go ahead, leave Jonestown. See if we care. That leaves more purple Kool-Aid for us!

Several years? Actually only a year and a few months, since January 30, 2010.

It's always easier to quickly forget the good.

Yet in that year and a few months, we've been transported some 2-3 decades back in time in terms of functionality.. :(

It seems more like NW is to come some 20-30 years later in the future, given what NW had in terms of self-service and what we have to suffer through with DL now.

Slymiles are a scam , pure and simple
 

It's a sore point with me.
I bought 2 round trips Haneda - Orlando on Delta a few months ago.
I calculated the value of the miles earned and found that it was worthwhile.
During the 1st trip Delta changed the price of the awards that I wanted to use from 20,000 slymiles to about , well, what does it matter because they also removed the low award inventory.
I learned from this .
Now I don't buy tickets on Delta . I strongly advise others to avoid the whole Slymiles scam and use a carrier with better practices.

Huh? I understand the aggravation with the change in redemption levels, but that shouldn't have affected the trips you took. Or are you just upset about the new levels?

Things have changed since NW days. If you are a reasonably frequent flyer to/from Asia...or those flights make up most of your annual FFP mileage...then Delta Skymiles is not the program for you. Especially if you want to redeem mileage on TPAC awards. Repeat ten times:
"Skymiles is not WorldPerks, Slymiles is not WorldPerks, Skypesos is not WorldPerks. etc etc.)"

Jump ship to somewhere else (might want to look at other FFP options besides United.)

And your hate for Haneda is misplaced--that's not the crux of your problem.

This

Some great things about Delta Skymiles, some that suck. If you need to jump ship be careful to look where you will land. Hope you find what works with your priorities

Oh yea, I hate CVG, but that's another story of misplaced anger for another thread. :D

I think it's best to have a forest and trees approach with lots of miles in lots of programa.

Ie AA UA etc have redemption fees close in and delta doesn't
Skymiles have been good to me with last minute redemptions.

Las Vegas for example at 25k when tix were 550+ and then getting upgraded.

Or Caribbean for 35k when tix were $600+, and getting upgraded

The calendar sucks etc but u can still use partners etc.

also it's very easy to acquire skymiles.

Just accept the horrible avail and routing on delta.com

If you think CO/UA is better then you better go for it. Between all 3 US legacies' TPAC most people find it is six of one and half a dozen of the other.

"Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. It is usually near the outhouse."