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Down3Green Feb 2, 2011 12:47 pm

MikeyZBT,

While the Delta Website does not specifically address it, my manuals which are a lot more detailed, cite VHF scanners as items that are not to be operated at any time (at the gate, taxi, cruise, etc). With that said, I couldn't care less if you bring it aboard as long as you don't turn it on. I've had people bringing all sorts of electrical equipment. As long as it fits in the overhead or under a seat, knock yourself out.....as others have said, you'll get far more questions from the TSA guy looking at it in the Xray than you'll get from the crew.

MikeyZBT Feb 2, 2011 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by Down3Green (Post 15788371)
MikeyZBT,

While the Delta Website does not specifically address it, my manuals which are a lot more detailed, cite VHF scanners as items that are not to be operated at any time (at the gate, taxi, cruise, etc). With that said, I couldn't care less if you bring it aboard as long as you don't turn it on. I've had people bringing all sorts of electrical equipment. As long as it fits in the overhead or under a seat, knock yourself out.....as others have said, you'll get far more questions from the TSA guy looking at it in the Xray than you'll get from the crew.

Thanks. I'll keep it off the entire flight.

Also, it wasn't really intended to listen during the flight, but I wanted to use it at my destination and while in the airport. Plus, liveatc.net is great, but it's on a delay whereas the scanner is real-time... I wish Delta had "United Channel 9"...

MikeyZBT Feb 3, 2011 11:20 pm

Not even a mention by TSA and no problem onboard as it stayed in my backpack.

EasternTraveler Feb 7, 2011 8:43 am


Originally Posted by MikeyZBT (Post 15783457)
I know this more of a "Delta" question and not a "Skymiles" question... but still...

Can you bring a scanner (not transmitter, only receiver) onboard a Delta flight? I wouldn't ever turn it on, but would like to keep it with me for use in the airport and on my trip. Also, I don't trust putting it in my carry-on luggage. I asked Delta via e-mail, but they said it was prohibited from being on the plane or operated...

Delta's site says

Devices You Can't Use

For safety reasons, you may not operate the following devices onboard:

Two-way transmitters such as walkie-talkies, amateur radios, citizen band (CB) radios, 49 MHz transmitters
Devices designed to radiate radio frequency energy on specific frequencies
Peripheral devices for computers or games connected by cable
AM/FM radios Portable television sets
Remote control toys
Bluetooth-enabled devices
Personal Air Purifiers
Smokeless cigarette/cigar/pipe devices


Technically, a "scanner" is none of these... Thoughts?

1. You MUST put it in your "carry-on". Why would you not trust it in your carry-on? I always carry my radio gear in my carry-on.

2. A scanner is a device that radiates radio frequency on specific frequencies. Although it is not a transmitter, it oscillates and emits RF. That is why you will find a FCC type acceptance sticker on it. Anything that emits RF has a FCC sticker if it is FCC approved.

3. Scanners are either AM, FM, SSB, Digital or a combination of any or all of these. All scanners capable of receiving airband transmissions (ie aircraft, airport or ATC radio) are AM radios. All scanners capable of receiving police, fire, business or any other public saftey transmissions are FM radios.

So "technically" and as a matter of fact you are wrong. It is technically and in any other way as well covered by the statements in the prohibited items. Sorry!

But you can put them in your "carry-on" and keep them with you as long as you do not turn them on.

Airplane Mode IS the same as TURNED ON! :D

MikeyZBT Feb 16, 2011 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by EasternTraveler (Post 15818361)
3. Scanners are either AM, FM, SSB, Digital or a combination of any or all of these. All scanners capable of receiving airband transmissions (ie aircraft, airport or ATC radio) are AM radios. All scanners capable of receiving police, fire, business or any other public saftey transmissions are FM radios.

Actually, that's not true. My same scanner can hear aircraft, ATC, police, fire, etc. It's all FM frequencies.

Also, there was no problem. I took it through TSA without a problem and just kept it "OFF" while on the flight.

patriots68 Feb 16, 2011 4:29 pm

I've flown with my scanner on planes many times traveling to races, in fact i'm flying with two of them tomorrow. Like other posters have said you can't turn them on in flight but I've never had a problem going through TSA

Danger Man Feb 21, 2011 7:45 am


Originally Posted by MikeyZBT (Post 15877880)
Actually, that's not true. My same scanner can hear aircraft, ATC, police, fire, etc. It's all FM frequencies.

Also, there was no problem. I took it through TSA without a problem and just kept it "OFF" while on the flight.

Actually YOU are wrong!!! Or, maybe you can't read "combination of any or all of these". Aircraft are not transmitting "FM". Aircraft transmit on "AM". So you have an FM/AM scanner!

LarryJ Feb 21, 2011 6:22 pm

Many pilots believe that aircraft communications radios are FM because they "sound like" FM radio. The real reason that they "sound like" FM is that they are on the band just above commercial FM broadcast (118.1 - 135.97 Mhz) and share the characteristics of those frequencies. AM modulation performs better when there are multiple transmissions as one time which makes it more suitable for this type of application. The HF radios, still used for much of the overwater communications, uses USB AM.

The VOR navigation receivers (108.1-117.9 have both AM and FM decoders) as part of the navigation signal is encoded as AM and part as FM, all on the same carrier.

MachOne Feb 21, 2011 6:54 pm

Delta used to allow Scanners
 
There used to be an allowance in Sky magazine back in the 1990's that allowed the use of VHF scanners. Probably DL's attempt to match United's channel 9.

http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scan...o/scan_fly.htm

MO

ceieoc Feb 21, 2011 8:13 pm

Yes. Pack your radio scanner and even a shortwave radio.
 

Originally Posted by MikeyZBT (Post 15783457)
I know this more of a "Delta" question and not a "Skymiles" question... but still...

Can you bring a scanner (not transmitter, only receiver) onboard a Delta flight? I wouldn't ever turn it on, but would like to keep it with me for use in the airport and on my trip. Also, I don't trust putting it in my carry-on luggage. I asked Delta via e-mail, but they said it was prohibited from being on the plane or operated...

Delta's site says

Technically, a "scanner" is none of these... Thoughts?

I am a communications specialist and electronics engineer. I work daily with emergency communications preparedness issues. Because of my job, I travel to locations globally to try to resolve communications and infrastructure issues. Over the last 40 years, many of my clients also pack their radio scanners in their carry on luggage in addition to packing their headphones or ear buds.

One of the most popular radio scanners that people take with them when they travel is the Uniden Home Patrol 1 (HP1). You can quickly program this scanner by simply entering a US Zip code, Canadian Postal Code or the name of the location. This radio scanner will then program itself to monitor aircraft, police, fire, emergency medical frequencies, weather and more in less than one minute. In the United States, the HP1 scanner complies with part 15 of the FCC rules. In Canada, the certification label on the HP1 states "a radio license must be obtained prior to possession and use of this device." Canada has this requirement for the HP1, as this radio scanner has the capability of monitoring unencrypted "digital transmissions" and analog transmissions.

When there is an widespread communications outage, usually due to flooding, hurricane or earthquake, and I need to travel to restore communications in a local area, I have a prepacked "go bag". This carry-on (go bag) is normally packed with 24 radio scanners, antennas and power supplies. The weight is still under 50 pounds. When I am sitting in a SkyClub with a weather or other delay, with my headphones on, I can easily monitor local weather, ATC, ground crews and more. Some of our clients stream audio output of our radio scanners to the Internet so you can listen-in to live radio transmissions globally. I have never had a problem checking in my electronics packed in carry on, checked luggage or air cargo.

More information on radio scanning is here:

http://www.usascan.com

http://www.homepatrol.com

73, WB8LIT

bwhite Feb 27, 2011 6:42 am

Interesting to hear feedback on the Ramsey ABM1 "passive" scanner.

Passive Airband Monitor


Passive design, can be used onboard aircraft, no local oscillator, generates and creates no interference whatsoever!!

there is no local oscillator so it doesn't produce, and can't produce, any interference associated with all other receivers with an LO.

The ABM1 has no local oscillator, it doesn't, can't, and won't generate any RF whatsoever!
Manufacturer claims the diode detector design means no local oscillator and therefore it generates no RF. If they are correct, then this device does not violate the "transmitter" rule.

Thoughts?


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