Originally Posted by majorwibi
(Post 14732740)
Dont want your info only the flight details but if you are too paranoid to realize I'm trying to help flush out if you got screwed I'm not sure how else to help you.
FWIW everything else posted on this forum about what has happened to you is PURE SPECULATION as no one has actually looked at the flight details to see what happened. I'm not an employee just married to one so I can promise anything I do (or have my wife do) wont be tracked back to you ...
Originally Posted by majorwibi
(Post 14732835)
How exactly is it poor treatment when historical posts have shown that when someone fails to post flight details there tends to be more to the story than what is posted. Its not poor treatment to not take the OP at his word when he has left out some of the most pertinent information about solving the problem.
Your reference to airline attitudes is a backhanded personal attack and while not directed at a person is a violation of the TOS of FT Code:
http://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules.php#q87 |
I have not read the entire thread, but did anyone ask if an air marshal was given the seat?
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Originally Posted by Pryde987
(Post 14726059)
Three years ago when I was just starting out in my line of work, I flew AA and ORD had crazy weather per usual. I lived between MKE and ORD, so I wanted to just take a bus and not burn 5 hours waiting for my delayed flight (that might just get canceled anyway). Long story short, I was given three different answers by three separate GAs on how to reschedule and eventually I just pleaded "please, I just want a voucher for the bus." I sympathized with the GAs as the environment was tough for them, I was polite, and I mentally noted the names of the GAs. They wouldn't put me on the bus, so I just called a friend to come pick me up. He was kind enough-- in the snow-- to do so.
I went home and wrote AA, citing my frustration with the inconsistent answers as my major point. I gave names. I then also noted that the bus cost $26, and while it's a small amount, I should not have to pay it. I also noted the inconvenience my friend experienced in picking me up. Sure, they refunded the unused portion of my ticket (to the company), but no apologies. I decided that I wouldn't use AA again. Over the next 12 months, I probably flew 20,000 miles. I scanned every ticket and emailed their customer service, attaching the images and referencing the old ticket number. I said how an apology would've sufficed, but I would no longer fly them because of the poor experience I had. The CS rep basically wrote back "ok, this is all your choice." Thanks for reinforcing my decision, AA. I've since made Premier on United twice, Sliver Medallion on Delta once, and I'll make Premier Exec on United this year while also flying 20,000 miles on Delta. American probably would've seen most of that action; I've certainly flown more expensive, less convenient tickets just to avoid them. Tell Delta to "eat ...." and never look back. If you feel like you got a raw deal, fly someone else. |
Originally Posted by KenfromDE
(Post 14733037)
I have not read the entire thread, but did anyone ask if an air marshal was given the seat?
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OP: What was the seat number?
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Originally Posted by majorwibi
(Post 14732740)
Dont want your info only the flight details but if you are too paranoid to realize I'm trying to help flush out if you got screwed I'm not sure how else to help you.
FWIW everything else posted on this forum about what has happened to you is PURE SPECULATION as no one has actually looked at the flight details to see what happened. I'm not an employee just married to one so I can promise anything I do (or have my wife do) wont be tracked back to you ... I have my reissued BP but not the original one so I can't tell you what seat # I had, I just don't remember, and I have no idea if an FAM took the spot or not. |
To my way of thinking, an FAM would be the only legit excuse. I have read in other threads where a battlefield UG was removed and replaced with the original seat holder.
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Originally Posted by Pryde987
(Post 14726059)
I decided that I wouldn't use AA again. Over the next 12 months, I probably flew 20,000 miles. I scanned every ticket and emailed their customer service, attaching the images and referencing the old ticket number. I said how an apology would've sufficed, but I would no longer fly them because of the poor experience I had. The CS rep basically wrote back "ok, this is all your choice." Thanks for reinforcing my decision, AA. |
Originally Posted by KenfromDE
(Post 14733752)
To my way of thinking, an FAM would be the only legit excuse. I have read in other threads where a battlefield UG was removed and replaced with the original seat holder.
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Originally Posted by weezl
(Post 14733660)
I don't feel I am poorly treated by FTers, I understand the frustration at wanting to know more (so do I!). I will PM you the flight info. Thank you for trying.
I have my reissued BP but not the original one so I can't tell you what seat # I had, I just don't remember, and I have no idea if an FAM took the spot or not. Sorry I cant be more help. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 14729535)
I don't recall anyone saying they were going to do that.
When I shoot candids, it is always with the intent of photographing a given individual. It is absolutely legal and, of course, absolutely ethical. If you are in public, you have NO expectation of privacy and anyone can take your picture. I don't take, "family snaps." I shoot photographs (and make videos), and my candids are frequently of specific individuals. As an example, you might like to look at this video I did of Hong Kong. Please tell me why you think it is unethical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6VBmcRLIqg Your examples are totally irrelevant. You aren't going around making negative comments, or accusing the individuals you are photographing of commiting some wrong against you. By the way, your Hong Kong video was very nice. I wish I had the patience to do something similar with my various travel photos and videos. |
Originally Posted by fttc
(Post 14730372)
My point is that someone who bought stolen goods will be dragged into the mess as a witness whether he wants or not.
So if you are sitting in a BE seat that someone else believes is his, taking a picture of you in that seat (whether you like or not) provides the strongest record he has to validate/advance his arguement if it's indeed his, and he's entitled to that proof. BTW, I do believe "S" in this case, which makes such a photo even more important. The GA will plead ignorance later, and deny that even happened, and there is little proof otherwise. As you mentioned, someone may very well object to that. So to avoid confrontation, people will do it discreetly. That's called "under cover". People do it, a lot of times for the right cause, not just police. Now I don't condone posting those kinds of pictures on the internet with one sided stories to get even. Unfortunately, there is very little that can be done for real innocent people caught in the crossfire. That's the price to be paid to have free speech in this world. As I said, If I'm siting in a seat and someone else believes it's their seat, there's no reason to skulk around sneaking pictures of me. Simply come up to me, say "Excuse me, I believe you're in my seat", and I'll check my boarding pass. If my boarding pass says that I'm indeed in the wrong seat, I'll blush, apologize profusely, and move quickly back to 37D :D On the other hand, if my boarding pass indicates the seat that I'm sitting in, I'll hit the FA call button and ask Detla staff to sort it out (while remaining seated, of course :) ) Sadly, the above situation wouldn't have worked for the OP since Delta had issued the OP another boarding pass. At the end of the day, Delta chose, at the last minute, not to extend a complimentary upgrade to the OP (one which they had previously promised the OP). I agree that the Op should be miffed, but Delta refunded him the miles for the upgrade so I'm not sure what else there is to discuss. Delta handled the situation poorly and hopefully, the OP will board early on in the future so that there is ample time to sort out these types of problems should they occur again. |
Originally Posted by Moebius01
(Post 14734107)
How could they justify a FAM bump on a paid upgrade, even if it was with miles? That's be like pushing a paid F fare back.
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Originally Posted by Moebius01
(Post 14734107)
How could they justify a FAM bump on a paid upgrade, even if it was with miles? That's be like pushing a paid F fare back.
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Originally Posted by jimrpa
(Post 14734576)
Recall that the guidance given to the OP was to serripticiously photograph both Delta employees AND the pax "sitting in his seat" with the intent of somehow documenting alleged malfeasance on the part of the various parties. I'm not sure why you'd want to get a third party (me, for example) involved in a dispute you have with Delta. Further, I'm not sure why it's necesary to skulk around taking pictures of me.
In this instance, because it is possible that the third-party was an NRSA. Your examples are totally irrelevant. You aren't going around making negative comments, or accusing the individuals you are photographing of commiting some wrong against you. By the way, your Hong Kong video was very nice. I wish I had the patience to do something similar with my various travel photos and videos. |
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