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Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack
(Post 23141485)
Residensea flies Bahama flag.
How does Bahama enforce compulsory education on long-term foreign visitors on land/private isles? And how is education enforced on long term passengers of Bahama flagged ships? |
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Your travel needs would likely be more efficiently met by a world cruise on a luxury line such as Crystal. These are smaller ships with some beautiful larger penthouses complete with Personal Butler. This is a much better deal than the World and you still have your own apartment.
At 212 k per person all included it is a steal. Ymmv |
Originally Posted by Flyingmama
(Post 23142221)
We are getting way off topic here, but I'll take a stab at answering - with the understanding I can only speak about US laws. In the US, a child is considered truant if he/she is absent without permission from a school in which he/she is registered. Other laws, such as child neglect, may apply if a child has never been registered in school and/or attended school. The exception is home schooling - in most states those children are required to be registered with their local school districts as being home schooled.
As chornedsnorkack noted, the ship flies a Bahamiam flag. And while the Bahamas do have compulsory education up to age 16, enforcement can be a tad iffy. Whether Bahamian law would apply to children of other nationalities aboard the ship is probably something a court would have to decide. The depth and extent of education would be up to the children's parents, wouldn't it? Or more likely the tutors and/or governesses hired to teach them. If nothing else, children growing up on board would likely be whizzes at geography and navigation -- :D |
Originally Posted by Myrtonos
(Post 23144912)
I thought that trunacy laws meant laws requring children to be educated. Compulsory education necesitates formal education, and means that at least some subjects need to be mandated.
I could be wrong, of course, but I know of no compulsory education law requiring that all children must be taught in a brick and mortar institution. There is no reason a child could not be educated aboard the ResidentSea as long as the spirit of the is law is met. As to whether compulsory education laws mandate the teaching of certain subjects probably depends on the laws of the individual countries. In the U.S. that used to be left up to the local communities to decide, although in the past 25 years or so there has been a shift toward enacting national standards for grades k-12. However, private schools which receive no public funding are not required to abide by these national standards. What subjects are compulsory in the Bahamas? Is the ship orginially from the Bahamas? |
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Originally Posted by Flyingmama
(Post 23146899)
Truancy laws and compulsory education laws are not interchangeable, although truancy laws may be a component of compulsory education laws. Truancy is usually defined (courtesy of Wikipedia) as "any intentional unauthorized or illegal absence from compulsory education. It is absences caused by students of their own free will, and usually does not refer to legitimate "excused" absences, such as ones related to medical conditions."
I could be wrong, of course, but I know of no compulsory education law requiring that all children must be taught in a brick and mortar institution. There is no reason a child could not be educated aboard the ResidentSea as long as the spirit of the is law is met. I have heard the ship is orgininally from Norway, but its bearing of the Bahaman flag of convenience puzzled me. |
Fascinating topic.
To keep it on track here's more recent information (2013) that the smallest units go for $2 million. http://fortheinterim.hubpages.com/hu...etirement-goal And I would think more than truancy, tax filing would be a nightmare. I live overseas in just 1 other country mainly and already that's a 92-page tax return! |
Wouldn't compulsory education laws normally apply only to residents? Would ResidenSea owners be legal residents of the Bahamas? Or would they typically be legal residents of whatever home they own or their former residential location? In this case, the schooling rules of their residence might apply to children, although AFAIK it's not a legal issue to send kids to another state or country even when their legal residence has compulsory schooling laws.
For example, if a child goes with parents to some foreign country for an extended tourist visit during a school holiday of the home country which isn't a school holiday for the country being visited, the kid normally wouldn't be expected to enroll in local schools. However, I suspect the short answer is that there are few kids who spend much time on this ship and for these few, their parents are responsible and make appropriate arrangements for tutors or whatever. |
anyone who can afford $90,000+ (studio) > $730,000+ annual fees would have no problems with any compulsory education laws - dont underestimate options available to wealthy
Originally Posted by Flyingmama
(Post 23146899)
I know of no compulsory education law requiring that all children must be taught in a brick and mortar institution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compuls...n_in_countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truancy...hments_imposed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homesch...and_statistics (US different from others)
Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 23154433)
smallest units go for $2 million
studios look like $600K > $800K or less |
Originally Posted by Myrtonos
(Post 23149237)
I have heard the ship is orgininally from Norway, but its bearing of the Bahaman flag of convenience puzzled me.
Most cruise ships fly flags of convenience, so there is no reason to think ResidenSea would be any different. Panama seems to be the most popular flag of convenience with cruise lines, but the Bahamas and Liberia frequently show up, too. |
As far as I know, ResidenSea does not have air-lubrication, which has been tried on some cargo ships. Will the Utopia feature such?
And does ResidenSea have something called a watch alarm? I've heard of a system on board large ships where a light flashes on the bridge if the skipper doesn't operate the navigational equipment within the normal interval, and that needs to be disarmed within a certain amount of time otherwise an alarm sounds, followed soon by additional stimuli in the captains and officer's cabins and then in other locations of personel. |
i cant imagine any other ships will be built any time soon
Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
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Originally Posted by cruisr
(Post 23531175)
A former colleague of mine works there. They use to have a department that would take reservations from non owners as if it were a regular cruise. They have since stopped that. There is a program, that is sort of like a "by invitation only" where potential buyers of the staterooms/studios/1 bedrooms, etc can come onboard for a try out, so to speak. It's my understanding they have to be referred and sort of "vetted"
Very interesting that when the ship is in dry dock the owners, who obviously cannot stay in their shipboard homes are offered things such as river cruises, tours, and hotel stays at discounted rates whilst the ship is not available to them. |
By the way, who pilots the ResidenSea, is it or will it ever be someone who lives on the ship?
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i often wonder about this ship too. i saw the travel channel special, the whole thing about the couple that plays piano and sings. but if i remember correctly, they buy into this, but it only lasts for so long. its not a permanent purchase, at some point your "residence" runs out.
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