|
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.167 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 12097329)
When I was under 21, I was very rarely denied PC access with an AmEx. The only two instances I can remember both came on one trip, first at the C-1 club at EWR one morning a few months before my 21st birthday, and again on the return before CO1803 out of LAX. Incidentally, that was the first trip where I had worn a backpack, and I believe my decidedly un-businesslike appearrance led the agents to scrutinize me more extensively than usual, perhaps to find a reason to deny me entry. When they found the birthday, it was an easy kill. Needless to say, the backpack has not flown with me since.
However, on that outbound trip, I was ultimately admitted after successfully arguing that since it was very early in the AM at EWR, no alcohol was even being served at that time, and in the absence of booze, there were no other grounds for me to be denied. Despite the rules clearly stating a minimum age policy of 21, she relented, much to my delight! My point is that I do not believe most agents carefully check the ID (including DOB) of every guest that enters the PC. I'm a 21 year old and yup... took a flight on my birthday to celebrate and bought my AS BR membership @ the first airport with one open (PDX) that day... Used the CO PC in SEA's B concourse several times... very nice bar compared to AS & NW... even if its a bit cramped... and no cap on beverages :cool: Usually no issue getting in... but one day I brought my mom by, and had a slight issue- again- probably scrutinizing me since I was an AS BR member... (after all, CO wants to be sure it gets paid :rolleyes:) The issue I encountered was the "Do Not Serve unless born on this day in 1986" sign... problem was I was born in 1987! But I was 21... CO just never updated the sign... I explained this to the agent (I also never updated my ID from the under 21 variety) and after a bit of back and forth... I was ultimately admitted... but kind of embarrassing to have this in front of my Mother-! |
Originally Posted by OPFlyer
(Post 12096746)
A friend of mine is on her way back From Australia with two of her friends. They are all in the SFO PC as we speak waiting for the redeye to IAH. The problem is, none of them are over 21 years of age. So I asked my friend how they got in, she says that her friend is a member and showed the representative her passport and PC card and they were allowed entrance. This alleged member is only 17! How is this possible? I can understand if the agent didn't look at the year on the passport, but how is this girl a member of the Presidents Club?
|
To answer a few questions:
1. No it is not a slow night in McAllen. I posted this not to get anyone in trouble but to see how they got in. I had no clue if it was PC shenanigans, SFO PC shenanigans, or shenanigans on the part of the girl. Hence the question mark in the thread title. I put no blame on any of the SFO PC agents. 2. I did not call the SFO PC because it really isn't my job to do so. Like I said earlier, if CO wants to know more they can contact me. I'm sure there is a record of recorded visits for this particular member and it would be easy to catch them, but like I said that is not my motive. 3. I have no concern for the alcohol/bartender idea. These girls would never drink in the PC for fear of being caught. 4. I talked to my friend today, whose currently waiting in IAH for the flight home to MFE. The PC card is her friend's mother's card and that was how they were let in. 5. Why would I call SFPD? What do they have to do with anything? |
I used my parents' Chase Visa card to get one free checked bag during my trip last week. I should probably be banned from CO for such shenanigans. COInsider can PM for more details.
|
I'm :confused: here -- what is the issue again?
Originally Posted by baglady
Sometimes when you are under 21, you have things that say you are 21 or over. Don't blame the SFO PC, which is a fabulous club.
|
Originally Posted by sdm1130
(Post 12097184)
Why does any of this matter? :confused:
At best, the OP seems to have sketchy, second hand information. The rules state that you cannot loan your PC card. Loaning your card to someone else to circumvent the rules and payment is stealing. Once this person is 21, then loaning the card would be avoiding payment. |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12098331)
I'm :confused: here -- what is the issue again?
Yeep. ^ |
Originally Posted by SFO777
(Post 12096902)
... for a closet. :D
David |
Originally Posted by DiverDave
(Post 12098440)
Which PC is the better closet - SEA or SFO? :cool:
David |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12098331)
I'm :confused: here -- what is the issue again?
Yeep. ^ |
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.167 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Originally Posted by sbm12
Originally Posted by DiverDave
(Post 12098440)
Which PC is the better closet - SEA or SFO? :cool:
David As for SEA... The closet even has a closet :p |
Originally Posted by SFO777
(Post 12096902)
... for a closet. :D
|
What about BF tickets?
As mentioned on page 1 (but not answered)...what if you are under 21 (not just by a few months, but maybe even years (say 18 meaning you could have at least bought the ticket yourself)), will you be able to access the PC? I know you can't be a member unless you are 21 but if you booked a paid BF ticket aren't you entitled to access the PC? Or do they just "water down" the ticket if you are under age and not include club access? I could see being allowed access if you are in a major city with the attended bars but I would guess maybe no access if you are in a city with an unattended PC.
|
Originally Posted by CLEtraveller23
(Post 12102781)
As mentioned on page 1 (but not answered)...what if you are under 21 (not just by a few months, but maybe even years (say 18 meaning you could have at least bought the ticket yourself)), will you be able to access the PC? I know you can't be a member unless you are 21 but if you booked a paid BF ticket aren't you entitled to access the PC? Or do they just "water down" the ticket if you are under age and not include club access? I could see being allowed access if you are in a major city with the attended bars but I would guess maybe no access if you are in a city with an unattended PC.
It's a grey area and getting huffy about it serves no productive purpose. |
My teenage son flies unaccompanied from time to time. (He is over 15 so he can fly without the UM checkin and dogtag document holder that he hated when he was younger.) He has a credit card to carry when he travels and we have never had a problem with improper use.
We were going to get him a Plat Amex card to have access to the Presidents Clubs and Admirals Clubs. We held off on doing so when we discovered the 21 age limit in both clubs. As much as he was disappointed that he could not get into the clubs alone without us, WE were disappointed because we would prefer that he be there during layovers. Except for a tiny number of travelers who could demonstrate their levels of inebriation equally at the departure gate, I have trouble thinking of these clubs as "bars", at least in the sense of those places into which I snuck when I was 16 (and the drinking age was 18.) But, them's the rules. Although I have trouble conceiving of this as theft, especially if AMEX were paying the club for his entrance fee when the card would be swiped through the reader. . Not according to the rules, yes, theft, I don't think so. Riding on someone else's card, yeah, that can be considered theft. One other observation. I have a low post count, but I lurked for a long time on these boards before I joined them. Earlier in this decade the word "enhanced" was a frequently used word on the CO forum. It looks like "shenanigans" is the new Co forum buzzword. |
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:03 pm. |
This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.