Even if the mother has no clue?

Unless she stole it from her mother which I doubt. Her mother likely gave it to her to use since they had the same or similar name.

+1 The girl in question is my neighbor and I believe her mother loaned it to her.

Do you really live in the Valley and not know what happens to squealers?

Loaning your membership card is in violation of the rules and makes her mother subject to having her membership revoked, without refund.

This is (in my view) the same as making alcohol available to minors. If there is an accident or some other event, then the parent can be legally and criminally liable. There is a reason you need to be 21 to buy a membership.

I do not think we want CO to stop serving liquor so they can lower the membership age.

Why is there a mention of drinking? Is the assumption that she went in the PC to drink? Maybe mom wanted them to have a nice place to relax instead of hanging around in the terminal...

And I know, I'm no high elite person, heck, I made Silver only because of the promo, and I've been in a PC all of 2 times, but if I had a son or daughter and could get them into a PC after a long flight to relax, and they caused no problems and did nothing wrong while in there, what's the harm? I'd take the chance. If I didn't trust them enough to give them the opportunity (or chance) to hang in the club, I wouldn't even offer the option.

:D

I would like to add that I in no way think these girls are in their to consume alcohol. The bartender would certainly ID them.

Slow night in McAllen?
 

No cat to kick around tonight? What's the big deal? Totally agree with unkfrank... "I had a son or daughter and could get them into a PC after a long flight to relax, and they caused no problems and did nothing wrong while in there, what's the harm?"

If you're that exercised about it, I'm sure SFPD has a bicycle cop nearby that they could send over. :rolleyes:

Not so sure about that. You serve liquor to a minor, you lose you liquor license in that jurisdiction. No license, no PC. I'm pretty sure they are supposed to check age, just in case.

I doubt this is the first instance of a minor using their father's or mother's pclub card.

How about drawing & quartering?

Why does any of this matter? :confused:

At best, the OP seems to have sketchy, second hand information.

It matters because as was posted up-thread the CO PC is licensed to serve alcohol. If minors are present without adult supervision, regardless if they are served alcohol or not, CO could incur an infraction on said license and pay fines. If the bartender assuming they were properly "carded" at the reception desk serves them alcohol the bartender could be charged with a felony and fined. I'm not mistaken but wouldn't one who is convicted of a felony, even a minor one, lose their airport access credentials and therefore their job?

Yeah, it's all just a trivial matter all right! :rolleyes:

To the OP - when you discovered there may be "shenanigans" why didn't you phone the SFO PC to alert them of this possibility? I'm sure it would have been handled with discretion and tact.

When I was under 21, I was very rarely denied PC access with an AmEx. The only two instances I can remember both came on one trip, first at the C-1 club at EWR one morning a few months before my 21st birthday, and again on the return before CO1803 out of LAX. Incidentally, that was the first trip where I had worn a backpack, and I believe my decidedly un-businesslike appearrance led the agents to scrutinize me more extensively than usual, perhaps to find a reason to deny me entry. When they found the birthday, it was an easy kill. Needless to say, the backpack has not flown with me since.

However, on that outbound trip, I was ultimately admitted after successfully arguing that since it was very early in the AM at EWR, no alcohol was even being served at that time, and in the absence of booze, there were no other grounds for me to be denied. Despite the rules clearly stating a minimum age policy of 21, she relented, much to my delight!

My point is that I do not believe most agents carefully check the ID (including DOB) of every guest that enters the PC.

It depends on the agent. I'm 23 and have had some PC agents carefully scrutinize my ID to look for the DOB. I didn't join the Crown Room until I was 21 though, so never tried to get into a PC before then.

Considering that the bar at SFO PC is not self service, I dont see any liquor violations arising (directly) from letting minors into the PC unattended.

Ive been carded numerous times in PCs.

No assumptions of age are made my the bartender based on your presense in the lounge. Theyre frequently not even direct employees of CO