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Originally Posted by Chicken or Beef
(Post 11648452)
...Once again just keep in mind you will cause someone Else's luggage to be checked and placed in the cargo bin. Now they are going to have to go to baggage claims and wait for it. (and Like I said this could be you)...
I might have had sympathy for the late boarding passenger in this case if it were a standard size roller-board and a briefcase or purse (ie, personal item). Not a "large backpack and an even larger suitcase". That will never be me because I never carry anything huge onto the plane. |
Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
(Post 11648455)
Sorry if my post came across as harsh, it wasn't meant that way. If an FA requires something, yeah, we'll have to comply. I would remain civil (as always on an airplane), but would have been somewhat persistant in asking if my bag could remain up top since it's the only one.
Now thats way different from what you originally inferred. BTW I too would do or say what ever I could in a civil non-threatening way in order to get the bag in a bin and not under the seat in front of me. Usually if ist not the last person aborad or the only bin that has room, there maybe some wiggle room. If they announced the door has already been closed then I wouldnt push it to hard as I wouldnt want to be the reason the flight is held up, and would understand teh FAs are trying to get us out ASAP |
Originally Posted by Chicken or Beef
(Post 11648452)
Just reading your responses I'm wondering would you feel the same if you were that last minute passenger? Would you be ok with me checking yours bags?
We try to encourage small bags to be place under the seats so we can place larger bags in the OHB, that way we can get as many bags as possible in the cabin. An advantage of carrying a backpack is that it can fit under a seat if necessary - it doesn't have to be gate-checked if there's simply no overhead room. But that doesn't mean that I want to lose my legroom when someone else shows up with luggage that can easily be gate-checked. I've got arthritis in my ankles and feet, and that little bit of extra space is a lifesaver. The checked bag fees encourage people to drag everything on-board that they can. I don't see anything bad with gate-checking, since people probably don't need most of the items in that rollaboard between now and arrival. That said, I'm not particularly interested in getting a fistfight with an angry passenger over this. |
Originally Posted by adastra
(Post 11648639)
The checked bag fees encourage people to drag everything on-board that they can. . Carry on bags increase the amount of time it takes to board and deplane. I wonder what sort of money could be saved by seriously limiting the carry on bags so that planes could spend less time on the ground. Every few minutes counts afterall in these complex plane shedules. Or does the cost of groundstaff outwiegh any savings in less ground time for certain aircraft or the fuel to compensate for the "weight" placarded for the overhead bins if the bins are empty. Does this make any sense? |
[QUOTE=Tummy;11648520]Oh boo hoo. Serves them right for trying to bring aboard bags that were larger than allowed. From the description, it sounds like they were larger than the "spirit" of one carry on and one personal item.
I might have had sympathy for the late boarding passenger in this case if it were a standard size roller-board and a briefcase or purse (ie, personal item). Not a "large backpack and an even larger suitcase". That will never be me because I never carry anything huge onto the plane.]Quote I was not there so I don't know how big the bags actually were. If they were oversize as the poster said then they needed to be checked. However most fas would not bother to try to place oversize luggage in a OHB which makes me think they probably were not as large as the Op claimed. |
[QUOTE=Chicken or Beef;11648807]
Originally Posted by Tummy
(Post 11648520)
Oh boo hoo. Serves them right for trying to bring aboard bags that were larger than allowed. From the description, it sounds like they were larger than the "spirit" of one carry on and one personal item.
I might have had sympathy for the late boarding passenger in this case if it were a standard size roller-board and a briefcase or purse (ie, personal item). Not a "large backpack and an even larger suitcase". That will never be me because I never carry anything huge onto the plane.]Quote I was not there so I don't know how big the bags actually were. If they were oversize as the poster said then they needed to be checked. However most fas would not bother to try to place oversize luggage in a OHB which makes me think they probably were not as large as the Op claimed. In the future I can put the bag in the space under the seat in front and after the plane takes off, I can move it so I have the space for my feet. I did try to get the exit row but there were only middle seats left. |
Originally Posted by Transcon
(Post 11647706)
I raised my hand and she said you need to place this bag under your seat. Now my knees are already touching the the tray table so the space under the seat is very valuable to me. Would it have been OK to decline? I did not want to make a scene but it is a long flight.
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Originally Posted by flymeaway
(Post 11648052)
Yeesh...do you guys really think this would happen if the passenger's response is civil?
Seriously...we're all working together here. We don't want to gate check anyone's things if there's a workable solution on board. All you have to do is politely say it'd be best if we can find space for it since I have such long legs. I'm willing to bet that 95% of the time, there is space to be found for a small laptop bag if everyone is willing to work together and be accommodating. A little civility and professionalism (from ALL parties) goes a long way. |
Originally Posted by Transcon
(Post 11647706)
Hi everyone, I have been enjoying all the posts on this forum for a long time. I fly LAX-EWR-LAX 10+ times a year. I have enjoyed being a CO elite because it allows me to board the plane before most passengers. I am 6'6 and need all the space in economy. Recently I had a situation in which I would like to have some input. On my last EWR-LAX trip, I placed my laptop bag in the overhead bin. As I watched the passengers board the plane, there was a particular single passenger that had a very large backpack and an even larger suitcase. I was really surprised that they let him board with all that luggage. Anyways he was having trouble finding a place for all his stuff. A flight attendant tried to find space around his seat area which was 3 rows in front of me. As she made it backwards, she open the overhead bin above my row, rotated a suitcase, and took out my laptop bag. She asked whose bag this belong. I raised my hand and she said you need to place this bag under your seat. Now my knees are already touching the the tray table so the space under the seat is very valuable to me. Would it have been OK to decline? I did not want to make a scene but it is a long flight.
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Originally Posted by COEWRFA
(Post 11650033)
Before I would of nicely asked you to do that, I would of checked one of this guys bags. I ask the agents to watch the bags and I watch them like a hawk when I work lead. We have a red coat in ORD that I wish I could carry with me to board all my flights. She won't let you past her if you have two bags or more and she charges you or whatever you tried to skip paying at check-in. AWWW! I love her!
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Originally Posted by rlbmorton
(Post 11650189)
I would like to put as much as possible in the overhead and that would be much easier if the carry on limits were enforced.
Bring back the carry-on sizers at the gates. |
[QUOTE=COEWRFA;11650033] In all reality though, small bags are to be stowed under your seat and the larger bags go in the bin.
Well, it would be nice if that happened, but it is not a requirement. Many times PAX will notice me looking for space for a larger bag and will offer to put their smaller bag under their seat (which is much appreciated), but I never go around telling people they have to. Sometimes that's all they brought on board, and that's the reason they travel light (like the OP), to keep the legroom. |
Originally Posted by Billiken
(Post 11650650)
+1
Bring back the carry-on sizers at the gates. And agents, please use them |
There was a long discussion of this in this thread over at the WN board recently. The problems I see on all airlines are:
1) No enforcement of the one bag and one personal item limit (i.e., people with three or four bags); and 2) No enforcement of baggage size limits, I've been seeing more and more of those large wheeled garment bags which barely fit in the overhead and basically take up as much room as two roll-aboards that are the proper size and will fit in with wheels in/out. |
Originally Posted by Billiken
(Post 11650650)
+1
Bring back the carry-on sizers at the gates. |
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