The oldest of CO's 767s was delivered in 2000. Many of CO's 777s are several years older, as are nearly all of the 752s. If CO doesn't upgrade the 767s, I doubt that the age of the fleet will have anything to do with that decision. CO is operating the newest 767 fleet of any US carrier.

The 764s will be upgraded with AVOD (and that should mean new seats in Y), according to CO Insider recently. After the 772s are done. But of course, that was when oil is around $100, so who knows what's the world is like in a year.

CO stated at the DO that that NGBF seats were being designed for the B757s, 767s and 777s.

I think CO should go ahead and convert the orders to 77L and introduce the new seats on those birds.
At this point who knows when they will take delivery of the 787 and if they will be spending the money on a new product , they should go ahead and implement them on the new deliveries.

It isn't age; it is efficiency. The 787s are 767 replacements and are expected to be much more efficient, hence CO's previously suggested plans to move them out of the fleet with the 787s coming into production. Of course the delays on the 787 line are hurting that plan. CO will have the option to retire them if they want to maintain/shrink capacity or to keep them if they want to grow capacity. While they have better range, the 762 capacity matches the 752, so that isn't 100% compelling.

I doubt the 77L is going to be a solution for CO. Maybe the 77W for the additional capacity on some routes, but CO isn't really pushing range on most routes. There are a couple, but even the longest (BOM, HKG, DEL) aren't weight/cargo restricted.

True. Cash is certainly king in the industry right now and I gotta think that managers at CO are metering every penny. At least I hope they are...

Yes, I know. I was just responding to the comment that they wouldn't install AVOD on the 767s due to the aircraft being "old," which they aren't.

Is the Search feature working for you. It's doing nothing for me except bringing up the error message. I've tried to use it to find several CO threads with no luck at all.

Your right I just tried to do a couple of searches, that I know worked in the past nothing came up...I have no idea why

Wouldnt it be smarter for them to install the NGBF seats with 8 777 comining to the fleet as this will save time and money, as they will just have to put the new seats in at later date and take the A/C out of service.

Also how far in advance do they have to put there order in to change to a 777LR or 300. Wouldnt it be better for CO to get some 777LR's to start some routes out of IAH to place like DXB, LOS cuz Alot of Carrrier are coming into IAH and starting routes out of there and there very successful

For the first two that will be delivered in spring '09 getting them configured the same as the existing fleet makes the most sense. As for the 772-LRs, I do not see a place in the CO fleet for them right now. While there are destinations that can be served non-stop from IAH with them, I believe that CO will wait to add a ton of TATL routes from IAH for the 787-9s to come online. And with the current schedule the 787-9s shouldn't be too long after the additional 777s roll in. Everything else TATL will grow out of EWR.

As for saving time and money with the configurations, Perhaps the new 6 will be configured if the 787s are going to have a NGBF seat and they are still prediceted to be close to the same time frame. But I would bet on CO taking the rolllout somewhat slowly on retrofitting the NGBF once they have it.

There are a couple of routes that CO could use the 77L on, such as EWR-BOM and to launch IAH-DXB. However I think CO can wait for the 787s for the Ultra Long Haul routes.

The 77W makes much more sense for CO than the 77L, it fits CO's fleet model as CO operates the largest model of 737 (900ER), 757 (300) and 767(400).

Routes that I think CO could use the 77W are;

EWR-
LHR, TLV, BOM, DEL

IAH-
LHR

EWR-BOM currently operates on a 772ER without any load restrictions that I am aware of. It is at the edge of the range, but still runs OK.

I've heard it does have load restrictions, maybe COInsider or someone could clarify.

Just rode an international AA 777 DFW-ORD. Spent most of the flight fooling with the seats and reading the seat manual. The seats make CO's BF seats look so last year. CO's AVOD, however, is much better than the AA product.

I'd imagin CO is more concerned about what the US flagged carriers are doing than the forigen planes, though they should be worried about both. I have not seen the DL seats yet.