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Phudnik Apr 2, 2010 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by Trustguy (Post 13700365)
Good evening.

I will be out your way again week after next. PM to follow at some point.


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700498)
TN still has a choice between a pension plan and ORP (junior staff don't have the choice, just pension). Retire under the former and sick leave counts as service time. ORP vests immediately and is portable but sick leave is not paid out; one can have sick leave restored if they take another job with the state.

Interesting about having to choose pension. How do they provide junior staff? When I was an employee of the state of South Carolina, even though I was on a limited number rolling contracts, I could choose pension or ORP. (ORP was obviously the better deal, so I didn't have to think too hard.)

Trustguy Apr 2, 2010 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 13700552)
I will be out your way again week after next. PM to follow at some point.

Keep me posted -- last night I had to hold for bretheren down in OC was a fail.

mnmag Apr 2, 2010 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by Trustguy (Post 13700569)
Keep me posted -- last night I had to hold for bretheren down in OC was a fail.

Oh, dear!:eek: Sorry that it didn't work out!:(

Olton Hall Apr 2, 2010 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700461)
Not uncommon with 12-month academic employees*. Remember I had to take off more than a month last fall during the switch to faculty ^

* TN allows senior staff to roll over many more days and we receive 13 holidays, 24 annual leave days, and 12 sick days per year.

I'd be 12 month professional staff vs. acedemic staff. Bump up happens after 4 years instead of the usual 5 years. They do have 10 month academic staff I noticed.


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 13700480)
A little tidbit about RU.

Your sick time gets paid out to you at retirement. There is no minimum age to retire. I've had a number of friends retire from RU in their 20s and move on.

The only draw back is, since RU is considered part of the state, once you retire, you can never work for the state again.

I may not have that part with the system I'd join. I noticed the vesting is immediate vs. the usual 5 years.


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700498)
TN still has a choice between a pension plan and ORP (junior staff don't have the choice, just pension). Retire under the former and sick leave counts as service time. ORP vests immediately and is portable but sick leave is not paid out; one can have sick leave restored if they take another job with the state.

I would be under the alternative pension plan which is a mandatory 403K plan (gov't version of 401K) vs. the regular lucrative state pension plan. So 5% to that, 1% to parking fee. Well at least I won't have union dues.

icurhere2 Apr 2, 2010 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 13700552)
Interesting about having to choose pension. How do they provide junior staff? When I was an employee of the state of South Carolina, even though I was on a limited number rolling contracts, I could choose pension or ORP. (ORP was obviously the better deal, so I didn't have to think too hard.)

ORP is a rocking deal in TN - 10% in addition to wages with no employee contribution. Further, if employee contributes funds to a personal 401(k) the first $50 a month is matched. Automatic retirement contributions of 10% and $600 a year is highly competitive.

Junior staff (clerical, support) simply don't have an option - they are only eligible for the pension plan and have to stay long enough to vest or lose the contributions. Senior staff get a choice between the pension and ORP.

Phudnik Apr 2, 2010 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by Trustguy (Post 13700569)
Keep me posted -- last night I had to hold for bretheren down in OC was a fail.

As it turned out, I ended up seeing my cousin and her husband and also my aunt (who just moved to PSP and was visiting), so at least I wasn't on my own.

icurhere2 Apr 2, 2010 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13700598)
I'd be 12 month professional staff vs. acedemic staff. Bump up happens after 4 years instead of the usual 5 years. They do have 10 month academic staff I noticed.

Nothing wrong with a 10-month academic contract ;)

monitor Apr 2, 2010 8:28 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13700442)
I was playing around the interboob and found out I had access to the benefits page at work even though I currently get none. For full time employees (hopefully in three weeks) indirectly 5 weeks of vacation a year. 2 weeks of actual vacation (can only carry over 15 days) 3 days of admin leave (must use every year) 2 days personal leave (must use every year) and the days between x-mas and new years = 5 weeks. Then there's 15 sick days on top of it.

This guy doesn't even have the job yet but it looks like he is busy planning how he is going to take the vacation, personal, and sick days. :rolleyes:

Olton Hall Apr 2, 2010 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700604)
Nothing wrong with a 10-month academic contract ;)

I noticed the option to spread everything out though July and August for the 10 month peopl if they want. Health insurance is covered in those two months automaticly.

ConciergeMike Apr 2, 2010 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700542)
I could imagine me quoting Eric Cartman extensively while looking at that ballot :D

I would pay to see that.

I've landed on CMT showing a cut-up version of an out-of-character interview with Larry the Cable Guy. ^^

monitor Apr 2, 2010 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700212)
Cooking mussels for the second time today; Kroger still refuses to fix the price on said product ... Also cooking Kraft Easy Mac for the second time today; have to love Kraft rebates for effortless side dishes.

I like the way this guy plans his life around the coupons, discounts, and sale specials. ^

Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700267)
Friday during Lent...

That explains the repeating mussels. Tell them to put the shrimp on at 2 for 1. :)

icurhere2 Apr 2, 2010 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13700598)
I would be under the alternative pension plan which is a mandatory 403K plan (gov't version of 401K) vs. the regular lucrative state pension plan. So 5% to that, 1% to parking fee. Well at least I won't have union dues.

As a ORP contributor, my percentage of income goes straight into an alternate 401(a). On top of that tax law allows me to contribute to a 401(k) and a 457 up to the maximum of each. The last two years I did indeed max out the 401(k) and moved on to the 457. Sadly my wage level is much lower as faculty.

Phudnik Apr 2, 2010 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700599)
ORP is a rocking deal in TN - 10% in addition to wages with no employee contribution. Further, if employee contributes funds to a personal 401(k) the first $50 a month is matched. Automatic retirement contributions of 10% and $600 a year is highly competitive.

You will not be shocked to learn that the ORP in SC was significantly less generous.

Scott6067 Apr 2, 2010 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13700442)
I was playing around the interboob and found out I had access to the benefits page at work even though I currently get none. For full time employees (hopefully in three weeks) indirectly 5 weeks of vacation a year. 2 weeks of actual vacation (can only carry over 15 days) 3 days of admin leave (must use every year) 2 days personal leave (must use every year) and the days between x-mas and new years = 5 weeks. Then there's 15 sick days on top of it.

Sounds kinda like mine. 4 weeks paid vacation (set times according to academic calendar) plus a few holidays sprinkled in there! No sick days that I know of but will have to check. The HR manager is not the best!


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13700091)
It's been a few weeks since you were last in the big apple. Aren't you a bit over due for one of your wild weekends in NYC? :eek:

I know. I am actually headed to Houston for an Easter celebrations there! Bunnies on the Bayou!!

Just realized the event came with a release form, this should be good!!


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13700094)
Nashville Superspeedway is in Lebanon. Camping World Truck Series pre-race is on Speed right now.

Hmmm... will I have problems heading south on 65 tomorrow on the way to Huntsville. AL??

icurhere2 Apr 2, 2010 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13700620)
I noticed the option to spread everything out though July and August for the 10 month peopl if they want. Health insurance is covered in those two months automaticly.

Here the year-round benefit status is due to a salary hold-back - although there are no teaching requirements in the summer, pay is paid in even monthly payments so the state plans give credit for continuous employment. There are still rare cases (e.g. "not public universities") where one only gets paid during the actual contract term.


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