CO Seating Questions Master Thread
 

So I know all of you use SeatGuru, but I've found they don't really give you an idea of how much more pitch exit rows have on different craft and aren't always accurate about bulkhead cutouts. For those reasons, I thought that a thread like this was in order. Basically, if you are sitting in a seat that SeatGuru says is terrible or mediocre and turns out to be fantastic, post about that, or vice versa. Also, for exit rows, say if it felt like the pitch was greater or smaller than that of another model. If you could include your height and, if you're not shy about it, weight, in your posts, that'd be even more helpful. I think that once we get a fairly comprehensive list of seats in the fleet, this list could be added into J.Edward's CO FAQ.

So here's a list of the fleet with comments:

EXIT ROWS

CO Express (ExpressJet)

ERJ 135/145: Some like 9A/12A as it's a single, but many people, myself included, prefer 9B/12B, particularly if there is no one in 9C/12C. Regardless of where you sit, expect your posterior to lose all sensation on a long flight.

US Mainline

737-300: TBD

737-500: TBD

737-700 (73G): TBD

737-800 w/o mid-cabin lav (738): 14CD aren't as roomy as 9B/12B on the ER3/4

737-800 w/ mid-cabin lav (738): TBD

737-900 (739): TBD

757-300 (753): TBD

767-400 Hawaii (764): TBD

Int'l (sometimes domestic) Fleet

757-200 (752): TBD

767-200 (762): TBD

767-400 (764): TBD

777-200ER: TBD

BULKHEADS


US Mainline

737-300: TBD

737-500: TBD

737-700 (73G): TBD

737-800 w/o mid-cabin lav (738): TBD

737-800 w/ mid-cabin lav (738): TBD

737-900 (739): TBD

757-300 (753): 1AB has a great cutout where you can put luggage. I'm 6'0" and 200 lbs and was able to sleep like a baby, something I normally can't do in domestic F.

767-400 Hawaii (764): TBD

Int'l (sometimes domestic) Fleet

757-200 (752): TBD

767-200 (762): TBD

767-400 (764): TBD

777-200ER: TBD


That's all for now. Please continue posting in this thread, as it will eliminate the "How's the X seat on the X?" threads, or at least reduce their frequency.

Good idea, but why duplicate something that already exists? Why not just submit the feedback to seatguru so that there is one improved, updated and comprehensive list?

Possibly because SeatGuru is a bit out-of-date and doesn't always take reader feedback. One more than one occassion I've submitted, what I thought, were useful updates to SeatGuru only to never see it incorporated.

Ditto

CLG

Okay... On 733s (w/IFE, long-range models. Not sure about the regular ones) seats 1A/B have a deeper bulkhead cut-out than 1E/F. 1B is preferable, since the cutout is directly in front of you. In 1A you got to angle your legs a little to the right for the full stretch. The cutout for 1E/F is there, but isn't as deep. If you got longer legs, 1B is your best friend on that aircraft. I'm longer-legged 5'9", and couldn't reach the back of the cutout even with my toes. In fact, the cutout is actually tall/deep enough that I think you might even fit a small laptop bag in there if you wanted to and the FAs didn't object.

That is precisely why I started this thread.

I've also submitted feedback, and we're talking almost a year ago, with no change on SG.

Excellent idea. ^

The United Airlines FAQ has very useful links to the helpful "Everything You Wanted to Know on Where to Sit on the [insert United equipment here]" threads. This forum would be well-served by doing the same, provided that we can emulate the careful organization in that forum. Having random nuggets of seating information in one single thread is likely to prove unwieldy; keeping threads about different equipment separate with links to each in one place, on the other hand, is a wise idea.

I have been looking for information about preferred seating on the 767 Micronesia (Hawaii) that is either unanswered by Seatguru or requires additional clarity from the regulars here who are familiar with this equipment. See, e.g., here and here. I'm sure a fully developed CO seating FAQ could provide just the answers that I need.

Oh my gosh, I must opine on Seat Guru's 75x seating charts. While the 2nd row of exit seats are indeed some of the best seats in the fleet, 7A on the 752 and 8A on the 753 are the absolute WORST! I sat in 8A on the 753 IAH-EWR a few months ago, and I thought I was going to lose it. The slide blocked about 1/3 of my legroom...I am 6'2" and well over 200 lbs. (and getting well'er over that as the days pass :D ), and I needs all the room that I can get. 7A on the 752 is the same deal, and I think that these 2 seats should be designated RED on the seating charts.

I think 2D-4D on the 762's and 764 Micronesia and 2-6D on the regular 764 should be marked green instead of yellow. The supposed problem with people bumping you from both sides is non-existent.

In addition, some sort of note needs to be made that rows 16 and 31 on the 764s only have somewhat restricted legroom if one is over 6' - these should be marked with a slash yellow/green. The same applies to bulkhead seats on all 737s. I noticed that row 16 and 32DEF on the 777 have appropriately been marked yellow/green.

I would disagree there. I sat in 5f on the 73g two days ago and was plenty comfortable. There is a 6" gab that a small briefcase can slide in front of you so you don't have to store it in the overhead, and the divider is angled to provide some legroom.

I actually agree with you. I'm 5'5", however, and people 6'+ repeatedly tell me that the 737 and 764 bulkheads have limited legroom for them if they want to stretch their legs past a certain point. I've been deferring to them in that regard, so that's why I suggested the yellow-slash-green rating. Some tall people might find them comfortable; others might rather have a seat reclining into their knees but be able to stretch their legs under the seat in front of them in a non-bulkhead seat.

Not sure how helpful this is to anyone else, but it's something I've noticed on both 73_s and 75_s on CO. Whenever I don't get upgraded I always vie for the coveted Exit Rows, which do offer significantly more leg room (I'm only 6'). Recently, I've been stuck on a couple redeyes for work, and didn't get upgraded, so I made sure to get exit row windows to have some space.

SeatGuru reports that, "Some passengers find these seats to be colder", or something to that effect. As someone who is always hot, rather than cold, I can't express how much of an understatement this is. It can be FREEZING by those windows. The last two redeyes I've walked off of in EWR and CLE to make connections to DCA, I've been close to numb. I've had a suit on, brought an overcoat, asked for blankets, and still felt hypothermic.

Just thought I'd throw this out there to anyone flying when the sun is down, who may be at all sensitive to the temperature.

Hmm... Interesting... I almost always get an exit window on a 73x/75x, unless I'm EUAd, and haven't really felt colder than usual, including on the redeyes. Now, if you want to truly experience hypothermia on a plane - try any window seat on a CRJ. I swear, that plane was designed by someone with no feeling in lower extremities. The AC vents are pointed right at your feet, and never stop blowing freezing cold air. I've learned to pick an isle seat (not always possible last minute), wear pants, shoes, and try to snag a blanket whenever I fly on a CRJ, even in the heat of the summer.

About a year ago I submitted a comment to Seatguru on row 5 on the 733. They had it as yellow due to restricted legroom, but it actually has a cutout that makes it quite comfortable. The seats switched to green on their web site within a week.

I find the site pretty accurate. Even when I think their seat color doesn't match my opinion I find there is a caveat in the pop-up message that explains the difference. For example, they say the middle BF seats on the 767s are "controversial".

My main complaint is their current design that groups the airlines by letter. I much preferred the old design with all the airlines listed at once and the aircraft list popped up when you scrolled over the airline name. No "enhancement" should force you to use more clicks to get to the same info.

I agree, I prefered the older method of listing airlines all at once.

By next month, I'll aggregate the seat data into a coherent list, placing all comments posted to their corresponding equip. Or someone else can do it if there's a desire for expediency. Will be flying a 73G, which I haven't flown in a while, but I remember SG being wrong about the bulkhead on it in F.

If at first you don't succeed.....
 

I sent an observation on limited overhead space for certain rows on NW ARJ's to seatguru.

When it was not noted after a couple of weeks I was slightly pissed, but I felt strongly enough about it to send the information to them again. Sure enough it was incorporated into the site a couple days later.

SunLover

Please post here so that I can build a comprehensive list of the details of the seats in the fleet. Please.

I just got EUA'd for CLE-LAX on a 73G. ^
F is wide open, what seat should I grab?

well I'm not sure this is the right place, but I didn't want to create a new thread.

I'm about to buy a carry-on and I want to make sure I can bring it along on Continental international flights. It's 22", which I know is bigger than the required 20", but I thought maybe they don't look that close (especially for an elite - silver).

This is what I have in mind:
http://www.tumi.com/products/index.c...e_Link=Details

What do you guys (and girls) think?
Thanks!

Not quite sure -- if you can fix the link you might get some more in depth info! ;)

Since I am not on that flight, you may select 1E.

I do not think that carryons are limited to 20" - except for travel from the UK, carryons are limited to 51" linear (length + width + height).

This is it, sorry:
http://www.tumi.com/tumi_collections...?modelid=97822

Yeah I just read about the 51'' linear. I was pretty sure I read 20 inches high somewhere, but where?

CO doesn't specify individual dimension. Only 51" overall. But two issues:

1. At some overseas airports, you can't get through security.
2. That bag you specify is 10.5" deep. No problem on CO's widebodies, but I seriously doubt they'll fit on the 737/757s' overhead. 9" will be about right.

how so?

Anyone else agree?

What is the advantage of 1E over 1B?

Take 1B--more legroom and usually second for meal choices.

1B would be my pick due to the cut out in the bulkhead.

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Con...ng_737-700.php

If you have to go on COEX Barbie jets, even the 20" Samsonite spinners have to be gate checked because the sliding doors won't close with the exta set of wheels on a spinner.

What are the best seats to choose on a CRJ-200? Are the emergency exit rows good to go with? I hear they do not provide too much extra legroom. Does row 1 have a cutout in the bulkhead for stowage? Thanks.

Flying in BF on a 777 with my wife and have 2 options: 1D/E (seatguru seems to imply these seats don't exist, what gives?) or 8K/L.

Any recommendations?

Personally, I like D/E when I'm traveling alone, so nobody has to ask me to move, or I don't have to ask anyone else to move.

But if I'm traveling with someone I know, I'd prefer seats to the sides so I at least have a window view.

And I prefer anything in row 2 - 5, as opposed to the second BF cabin.

SeatGuru's CO772 map has been wrong for several weeks now.

I'd take 1 over 8.

True, but it seems like 8K/L not only have the window view but a lovely lavatory view...

I selected 1D/E, but I'm still debating whether to go with 8K/L...

I would always go with anything in the front section every time.

764 - ? on Differences btwn SeatGuru & Seat Expert
 

ok my searches have not cleared up the question i have regarding BF seats on CO 50 CDG-EWR.

SeatGuru says Row 6 is preferable 'cause it gets more personal attention

Seat Expert says that the Rows 1-4 are better due to first choice of meal.

For those who have flown this equip/route which do you prefer?

I'm traveling solo and right now have 2K

Other choices are 3,4,5 or 6D.

btw, 2L is still empty (travel is early Nov) if that changes the equation

any insights appreciated

6D hands down...especially if you are traveling alone. Typically the cabin is served by two different galleys. Rows 1-5 by the front and 6-7 by the back. Also the ISM helps with the service for rows 6-7 so you get more personal service because there are fewer of you to serve and the ISM helps out which makes it even better.

On the 772's, I have a choice between 16C, 31A, 31B, and 31C (as well as numerous other seats including 44ABJK) but seatguru implies these are the best ones. Any particular one I should take? In the meantime, I've taken 16C, but should I switch to an aisle seat in 31? I'm flying solo...

I have a similar question:

Which is better: Row 16A/L or row 31 A/L?
Does anyone have any idea what the pitch is for either?
Is there any reason to pick the A-side over the L-Side?

Thanks