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slippahs Sep 22, 2006 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by Weatherboy
But some of the worst TSA lines in the US are in Hawaii. Be sure to take the WikiWiki shuttle that keeps you within the secured side of the airport and do -not- leave the secured mainland terminal that you arrive in on and do -not- walk over to the interisland terminal. The shuttle runs quickly and frequently and is located upstairs/outside over the mainland terminal.

I don't agree with this statement. The WikiWiki shuttle is widely known for not being too "Wiki"...

If you have a tight connection and you're arriving anywhere from the central concourse to the Ewa concourse (gates 15 and higher), I think you can do much better by walking rather than taking the WikiWiki shuttle. (This is the very reason why they're getting rid of these WikiWiki shuttles in the near future.) A leisurely walk from gate 25 will take roughly 10-15 minutes. The WikiWiki shuttle's rotation (there's probably only one running during non-international arrival times) can take 10-15 minutes.

However, if you're arriving off of UA's gates, the walk is long, so you should take the WikiWiki shuttle.

And, by walking and following the directions listed in the thread above, you will not leave the secured area. You can walk between any gate at HNL without leaving the secured area (including the commuter terminal). :)

Weatherboy Sep 22, 2006 5:24 pm

Bags
 

Originally Posted by Mary2e
Thanks... but if it doesn't make it on my flight, will they deliver it or will/should I hang around the airport for it?

After flying in from EWR with a planned LIH arrival of around 6pm, well, I just may be cranky by then and don't want to deal with it. :) ;)

Unfortunately, I don't think any of my bags ever made it with me to any flight to LIH. I connected fine to my HA flight, which was the last of the night, but the folks at CO (or HA) shipped my bags on Aloha which had the latest flight of the night. In each case, bags were always delivered to my hotel ...and then the hotel got them to my room. I guess I have a 60% chance of not getting my bags there.

On KOA, I've had similar experiences. Although by the time I get my rental car squared away (even with all my car rental elite perks), enough time passes where the next flight in from HNL arrives... with my bag. On KOA, I have a 70% chance of my bags not arriving with me.

On OGG, I've had the same happened to me although far less frequently than the other islands. I'd guestimate odds of losing my bags there at only 25% chance.

So as you can see, I have bad luck with inter-island interline luggage. (However, I must say that 100% of all bags checked-in in OGG/LIH/HNL do travel back home with me.) I don't mind too much though... I'm so relaxed once the pineapple scented air hits my face that all worries leave... and if anything, it's a perk: I don't have to worry about carting bags from the airport to my room.

I'm going to OGG and KOA again in a few weeks and hope to have better luck :)

Mary2e Sep 22, 2006 9:24 pm

I guess I better have some stuff in the carry-ons to wear when I get there judging from everyone's experience. :p

Yeah, the pineapple/floral air does wonders upon arrival, it's just that as soon as I hit the hotel room, I'm ready to crash - and my jammies are an important part of that crashing :D.

I'm glad I'm forewarned enough to be prepared with extra stuff AND to tell the hotel not to bother me with the luggage until the morning.

Thanks!

MBM3 Sep 22, 2006 9:29 pm

I hear ya sister - given that most of us are catching a flight at the butt crack of dawn to connect to our Hawaii flights, it is very difficult to stay up once you arrive at your hotel at your destination. I wouldnt fret over your bags, but pack wisely.

Aloha1 Sep 23, 2006 8:30 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e
Wow... I didn't know that (my bad for not reading slippahs post).

Walking takes you out of the secured area?

I have a 90 minute connection and was going to ask CO to interline the bags to Hawaiian. Are you saying they might not make it on the same flight as I'm on?

Walking to the Interisland Terminal from the CO gate is generally faster than waiting for the Wiki-Wiki shuttle - and you never leave the secure area. Just follow the signs to the Interisland gates (roughly 40-64) Takes about 10-15 minutes tops. You can also now get to the commuter terminal without having to leave the secure area. Just go to the last Interisland gate (I believe 64), go down the escalator and a GA will escort you over to the terminal for Go or Island Air flights.

Mary2e Sep 23, 2006 8:52 am

Thank you very much. I'm sure the walk will be welcome after sitting for so long!

IAH-OIL-TRASH Sep 26, 2006 7:23 am

Walk / Don't Walk
 

Originally Posted by Mary2e
Wow... I didn't know that (my bad for not reading slippahs post).

Walking takes you out of the secured area?

I have a 90 minute connection and was going to ask CO to interline the bags to Hawaiian. Are you saying they might not make it on the same flight as I'm on?

You can walk to Aloha/Haw'n interisland terminal from mainland arrivals w/o leaving secure area. It is usually faster (75% of the time?) than wiki-wiki shuttle, which runs erratically.

However, if you're connecting to Pacific Wings, Island Air, or Go! (Mesa's island entity), you must go to the commuter terminal, in which case you must go through a security checkpoint.

IAH-OIL-TRASH Sep 26, 2006 10:22 am


Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
You can walk to Aloha/Haw'n interisland terminal from mainland arrivals w/o leaving secure area. It is usually faster (75% of the time?) than wiki-wiki shuttle, which runs erratically.

However, if you're connecting to Pacific Wings, Island Air, or Go! (Mesa's island entity), you must go to the commuter terminal, in which case you must go through a security checkpoint.

Oops - Slippahs sez one can get to commuter terminal w/o exiting mainland terminal. The only time I used commuter teminal was a HNL origination (ie non-connect from mainland), and there didn't seem to be an obvious walkway from the interisland terminal. Is it from the far end (Pearl City side) of the Hawn' gates?

slippahs Sep 26, 2006 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Oops - Slippahs sez one can get to commuter terminal w/o exiting mainland terminal. The only time I used commuter teminal was a HNL origination (ie non-connect from mainland), and there didn't seem to be an obvious walkway from the interisland terminal. Is it from the far end (Pearl City side) of the Hawn' gates?

I actually learned this recently... :) Yes. The walkway is on the Mauka side of the Hawaiian gates:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...light=commuter
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...light=commuter (post 5)

UA Insider Sep 26, 2006 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by dmbfan222
Would CO allow me to check the bag all the way to LIH even if I'm flying another airline? I've never tried this before.

Hi dmbfan222, the answer is yes, as long as you're on a legal connection (minimum connect times are met), and are connecting to an airline with whom Continental has an interline baggage agreement. For connections within Hawaii, we do have interline agreements with Hawaiian Air, Aloha, Island Air and Pacific Wings. We do not, however, have an interline agreement with "Go" (operated by Mesa).

slippahs Sep 26, 2006 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by CO Insider
Hi dmbfan222, the answer is yes, as long as you're on a legal connection (minimum connect times are met), and are connecting to an airline with whom Continental has an interline baggage agreement. For connections within Hawaii, we do have interline agreements with Hawaiian Air, Aloha, Island Air and Pacific Wings. We do not, however, have an interline agreement with "Go" (operated by Mesa).

Scott, thanks for letting us know that CO does not have interline agreements with Go!. That'll help clarify things in the future over on the Hawaii forum.

BTW, a legal connection also means within 4 hours of your scheduled flight. The ramp workers at HNL will send your bags to bag claim if you have a connection longer than 4 hours.

dmbfan222 Sep 27, 2006 9:23 am


Originally Posted by CO Insider
Hi dmbfan222, the answer is yes, as long as you're on a legal connection (minimum connect times are met), and are connecting to an airline with whom Continental has an interline baggage agreement. For connections within Hawaii, we do have interline agreements with Hawaiian Air, Aloha, Island Air and Pacific Wings. We do not, however, have an interline agreement with "Go" (operated by Mesa).


Thank you for the reply Scott. Would a connection time of 40 minutes on Hawaiian Air meet the minimum?

slippahs Sep 27, 2006 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by dmbfan222
Thank you for the reply Scott. Would a connection time of 40 minutes on Hawaiian Air meet the minimum?

It would meet the minimum. However, you should allow at least 60-75 minutes to connect with bags in HNL. As widely practiced in HNL, just because you make the minimum connection, does not mean that your bags will. Your bags may very well take a later flight. See the Hawaii-based Airlines forum/the Guide linked below for more info.

dmbfan222 Sep 27, 2006 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by slippahs
It would meet the minimum. However, you should allow at least 60-75 minutes to connect with bags in HNL. As widely practiced in HNL, just because you make the minimum connection, does not mean that your bags will. Your bags may very well take a later flight. See the Hawaii-based Airlines forum/the Guide linked below for more info.


Thank you, I know it's cutting it close. I will be arriving at 7:20 on the non-stop from EWR and the last flight to LIH is at 8:00. I know it's going to be cutting it close but I think I'm going to go for it. I guess I'll carry a bag with some clothes just in case the bags don't make it to the LIH flight.

slippahs Sep 27, 2006 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by dmbfan222
Thank you, I know it's cutting it close. I will be arriving at 7:20 on the non-stop from EWR and the last flight to LIH is at 8:00. I know it's going to be cutting it close but I think I'm going to go for it. I guess I'll carry a bag with some clothes just in case the bags don't make it to the LIH flight.

Good idea. And, seeing how it's the last flight, HA would make their best effort to get your bags from the domestic terminal to your interisland flight, but I have heard numerous stories of bags arriving in on the first flight of the next day for those with tight connections. This may very well happen to you if CO15 is delayed.


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