Charity Poker Tournament at the Upcoming CO Event
 

This year's event is going to be even better than last year and you're in for some great surprises on the tours...we can't divulge specifics, but each one has some great surprises in store! If you haven't signed up for the event yet, be sure to sign up soon...spaces are going quickly.

Cigarman has asked me to take the lead and organize a charity poker tournament for the upcoming event. Even if you have never played Texas Hold 'Em before, this is a great chance to learn and donate some money to a great cause.

We have decided to make this the tournament all for charity (TX laws are very strict) so all proceeds will go directly to the charity and are fully tax deductible.

Continental has been very gracious with sponsoring the event and picking up the tab for us, so now it's your chance as a FTer to give back.

Updated 1/25

Cash Bar
Cigar has arranged for a cash bar from 10 pm to 1 am and some salty snack food. Even if you are not playing, come by and socialize with your fellow FTers.

No Experience Necessary - if you've ever wanted to learn to play Texas Hold'Em, I'll be more than happy to have some tutoring sessions on Friday and Saturday during down time (I get in very early Thursday am, but won't get to the airport hotel till early Fri am).

The Charity
The charity this year will be the Josephite Fathers Hurricane Relief Fund. This is a charity that Cigar has worked closely with and they serve poor and underpriveleged people in of color (not sure if that's politically correct, but if not, please don't flame me). They currently face a $6 million deductible for hurricane damage and need all the help they can get. Depending on how this works out, we can have a different charity for our second annual tournament next year.

The Buy In
We don't want to handle to cash, so please bring a personal check with you...cash will not be accepted. We are asking for a minumum $20 donation for the initial buy in with an additional buy in for another $20 within the first hour. Feel free to donate a little more if you can...all donations are fully tax deductible and tax receipts will be mailed to the address on your check. I would suggest bringing two different checks, one for the initial buy in and one for the re-buy. Please make them payable to:

THE JOSEPHITE HURRICANE RELIEF FUND

We have a large room and lots of tables set up for this and will have an off-duty police officer there for security.

Please don't rsvp by replying to this message...simply e-mail me your rsvp. I'll send out a message to all people on the list the week prior to the event with any final details regarding timing, blinds, re-buy rules, etc.

We'll also have space for cash games once you're knocked out of the tournament.

Even if you have never played in a tournament before, this is a great chance to have some fun with your fellow FTers!

Confirmed List (I'll update this every day or two):

As of 1/27

1KSFO
Baglady
Mr. Baglady
Bigboofer
cerealmaker
cigarman
cobrax333
cova
Derrico
divrdrew
EastCoastWing
FTJet2K
getrandom
HobokenFlyer
J.Edward
jaylenofan86
KosraeTV
MBM3
mitchell
nologic98
Radonc1
Radonc1 guest
Russell745
Starwood Lurker
ssullivan
syzygies
theblakefish
Vulcan

The Tournament - Updated 1/25
Approximate start time will be 10 pm Saturday night at the Doubletree hotel. Please RSVP to [email protected] with your FT handle and name. If you're not sure, that's okay. You'll still be able to get into the room as long as you're on the guest list for the event (it has to be private by TX law).

The Process - Updated 1/25
At this point, we will have three tables running. We'll start with around $8500 in chips each (5x100, 6x500, 5x1000) and with $100/200 blinds. The blinds will go up every 15 minutes and when we hit 500/1000 blinds, well color up and have a race off for the rest of the chips. One person per table will be a designated dealer and we'll consolidate tables as the numbers decline. Rembember to bring your checks to the event as we won't accept cash...those of you from overseas can find someone to put you on their check and can pay that person (I'll be more than happy to do that for others).

I think that's about it from my end...cigarman...anything you'd care to add?

Not to sound greedy, but are there any prizes for the tourney? Maybe continental would be willing to donate a lifetime pass on any flight to the winner.

We wanted prizes. However, Texas law does not allow for it. So basically, it's bragging rights and first choice of the tour next year!
Drew is doing a great job. But I might add we will have a cash bar also and much fun! Plus I know a few of the CO guys are going to play.

Actually Texas law does allow for prizes... what it does not allow for the organizers to make a profit from the event. No biggie either way :)

Scott

Is there an attorney from TX that can confirm either way whether or not prizes are allowed?

Here's my feeling on the tournament. While prizes would be nice, that should not be the focus. Charity is the focus of this. Continental has been very gracious over the past year to the Flyertalk community by hosting these events. The tours this year are going to blow away what we had last year, as is the dinner event. And none of this costs any of us a penny (other than travel arrangements). Think of how much this weekend would cost on a per person basis just for the meals that CO is hosting for us. This tournament is a great way for us to give something back to a needy organization...plus, it's tax deductible!

Regarding the issue of checks, I have been asked by one person that is coming in from overseas about accepting cash. If you are coming in from overseas, there may be an issue with the charity being able to cash your check without incurring significant extra charges. Please PM me if this applies to you and we will work something out.

If enough of us bring spare checks, won't this be a non-issue? Alternatively, $50 traveler checks kinda bridge the two worlds, no?

I'm not sure about being able to take Traveler checks. I simply don't know if the charity will accept them and what conditions are placed on us to verify the identities, etc. I suspect that we won't be able to take traveler checks...simply too many issues to address.

The Joesphites can easily cash forgein checks. They have a seminary in Nigeria. They have many overseas accounts.

IF we can legally give prizes. CO would be happy to donate a big pot o miles to give out! So If anyone can claryify...

YES, you can legally give prizes (even money). The only rule about gambling/poker in TX is that the "house" or person/entity hosting the poker game/tournament does not profit or benefit financially (other than a Charity). I played in a charity poker tournament for ALS foundation (aka lou gherig's disease) in houston a year ago. It was publicly held at the convention center in the medical center. All prizes were donated by sponsors, with the grand prize being an entry to the world series of poker (or $10k). What's funny was that it was a re-buy tournament with the original entry fee being $250, and the FULL amount of the buy-in and all subsequent rebuys were tax-deductible (as per the Foundations' receipts). This was one of the best deals in terms of tournaments considering there were only about 200 entrants with a grand prize payout of $10k, and you get the tax write-off to boot! There was free booze and barbecue from the sponsors as well.

Sorry to digress, but thought I would give you a real life example. Any attorneys familiar with this? I highly doubt the law will bat an eye considering there are many successful "underground" poker rooms/clubs professionally run in/around houston.

Wait we were told a charity event was shut down due to giving away a word series entry since it had value. There was a thread somewhere in this forum...

I don't think this is the case any longer and I believe that this particular tournament may have caused the issuance of one Texas AG opinion. Although this site is to the TABC, it links to two recent AG opinions that address this area. It would appear from reading these that under the facts presented, prizes may not be offered. However, I am not making any representations as to that.

Tournament Entries
 

So far, I have only 15 people confirmed for the tournament...not much of a tournament. Please be sure to e-mail me at [email protected] to RSVP no later than this coming Sunday. We need to be sure that we can confirm the number of people attending so we can configure the room appropriately.

Thanks

Drew

You might want to post those attending - so we know you received our RSVP.

If someone ironed out the prizes vs no prizes thing I am sure it would have a big boost in your RSVP list. Some might find it hard to imagine spending several hours of poker just for bragging rights. Part of the game is the possibilty of winning something. :cool: Just a comment..

you rigth i will be more than happy to sign in

We just can't do prizes. I am not going to jail! I already am paying out of my pocket $500 for the room rental. Just bragginbg rights.
However, after you get knocked out of the tournement if you want to start a small stakes cash game like last year, that is legal. Just no prizes.

This isn't about prizes...it's about having some fun with your fellow FTers, but more importantly, it's about CHARITY...our turn to give something back to a very needy and deserving organization. Even if you are not planning on playing in the tournament, consider making a donation anyway ^ ^ ^

Yes I absolutely get the charity thing. I have nothing against that, but you had a concern about the numbers that had signed up. Just trying to help. ;)

I plan on donating if I do not end up playing.

I'm with Brad - poker not my thing, but I'll buy a drink and throw a $20 in the poker pot - if J.Edward wants to sponser Herr Bears with me then we could probably scare up another $50 ;) If anyone wants to see a picture of Herr Bears in the back seat of xyzzy's car then pledge a 20 to Cigar and PM me :D :D :D

Or
 

Or, I could sell you a story about MY UPGRADE FLIRT which may or may not be better than lawflyer's :D

Or
 

OR, I could show select viewers my nifty bionic-looking brace that I won during the downhill skiing contest at A-Basin, personally inspected and pronounced gimpy by Mr. & Mrs. Old Gold in Tucson. :D

Boy this could be one helluva party!

Ah ha! WendyHamburger you beat me to a Herr Bears comment! :eek: :D But, the night of the NY miniDO was a good one - and an event I look forward to repeating (not to mention a prime example of how FT + Alcohol = Nothing Good :o :cool: )

But, as far as any purported picture of J.Edward, may I remind everyone that said picture was never a valid picture and was never offered to anyone, privately or publicly, by J.Edward, his affiliates or parent companies. As a reminder, offers, pictures and associated promotion codes are only valid if they are communicated to you by J.Edward.

Should you wish to keep said picture, than please send a reply email to your boker/financial advisor entitled "I hereby authorize a complete transfer of all personal assets to JEFEA” (see below)

:p :D

Despite my total and utter lack of any poker skills whatsoever, I'm looking forward to visiting with all the great people I have met (and will meet next weekend) at the tournament. Last year it was a great time to smooze with others. Oopps! I mean become part of the FT Underground Elite who PM each other with their hoards to secret FT info! :p :p

Cigar's charity is great - much sounder than the J.Edward Foundation for Educational Advancement and, if I recall correctly, BigPoppa has some booze to buy too... :cool:

And to think this year J.Edward will not have to sneak sips of our drinks like Spaulding of Caddy Shack fame....

:D

And I prefer the M6 myself....or mayve the AudiR8 if I am still in dream mode.

Um... no offense to J.Edward
 

OTT - Over the top :D

Thanks... :) :) :)

Sounds like fun...I'll put on my Kenny Rogers costume.

How do I sign up?

PLEASE no male thongs...
:p

I've signed up. I'm sure dead money is welcome. :D :D :D

I've signed up.

No cigars? :mad:

That's OK I deal with it in CA at the Commerce Casino. I'll just be saying, "Deal Me In/Out" once in a while ;)

Don't worry, I'll be out and re-bought in many times before you. Venetian loves me :p

Updated
 

I think the smoking thing is an issue with the hotel's ballroom. I'm sure many people will be getting dealt out on occasion...I have updated the attendee list and added a couple other items to the initial posting.

Hi. I thought I should google Texas Hold'em before playing Saturday night, and found two games: Limit, and No Limit. I believe they're both poker. What are we playing?

Great question. I am not sure yet. I have to ask drew his thoughts. But it is the same game. Limit simply limits the maximum number of raises and the maximum bet each time. But the limits go up slowly, so pretty soon it basically becomes no limit!

Well outstanding poker players such as myself are limited by lack of skill.

Ok, I wanted to be able to pull off a credible imitation of a poker player, and found the demo version of this program:

Poker Academy

If you just want to play half an hour tonight to remind yourself of the logistics of poker, the limitations of the demo are immaterial. (Despite reviews that your opponents are strong, it lets you win, trying to get you all excited so you buy the program. Hey, if I offered betting game demos, I'd do the same.)

So now my questions are these:

1. How can we start with $100 blinds, if the initial buy in is $20 minimum?

2. How can we have a designated dealer, if there's an advantage to table position relative to the dealer?

All I really know about poker is the shuffling phase (I'm David #2), and it's fine with me if no one follows this advice!

Glad to know that. I was beginning to think that after last year's game, I was responsible. ;) Apologies to those who sat through two cigars, but one was Cuban and I had to be sure it didn't go bad on me being outside a humidor. :D

Sincerely,


William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services

[email protected]

Each player will be given the same amount of chips - it looks like $8500 according to divrdrew's post - for their $20 buy-in. The value of the chips is not really related to the amount of actual money spent on the buy-in.
A dealer button usually moves around the table to designate who is "dealer" for the sake of betting. The designated dealer refers to the person who will be physically dealing the cards. It simplifies things if one person is dealing the cards even though the "dealer" for betting's sake will change each hand.