OnePass program changes
 

Go to onepass.com, look under
"News & Offers" for June.
Changes afoot...including -

-Retroactive credit on new OP accounts
-Mileage Purchase Option
-Reward Upgrade Certificates
-Waived fees for Plats
and...
mileage segments as points
towards earning status!


[This message has been edited by ClassicalGal (edited 05-08-2001).]

Thank you for the good CO News, ClassicalGal!

Well, no more redeposit fee for plats, but didn't they recently raise it to $75 for everyone else?

They sure don't miss a trick in the miles-for-money game, either. $25 fee for retroactive crediting for new accounts and now you can buy up to 12,000 miles at $25 per 1,000.

In that vein, how's this for an idea for a promo: for a limited time, pets and lap children earn miles, and, for a $50 administrative fee, you can transfer those earnings to your OnePass account if you're the accompanying adult (and the fare was anything other than T or Q).

I'm concerned they'll push this miles-for-money thing too far and make it too easy to add new taxes that would cause the whole house of cards to come down. The IRS and most companies don't speak the language of "miles" well, but "money" is something they understand all too well.

I see there's still plenty of award seats between Atlanta and Cleveland (Does anyone actually use the reward travel forecasts?)

I don't understand what a "mileage segment" is. Miles earn elite status and segments earn elite status... so what's a mileage segment?

[This message has been edited by dbaker (edited 05-08-2001).]

I just wonder what NJDavid will have to say about this.... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I say, "just wait for the other shoe to drop."

They're making it easier to re-use your international upgrade certificates that have not cleared. Wonder why?

NJ David... Me thinks ALOT of people, including me, are waiting for rev. management to move seats from J & D to Z ... but I dont think it's been happening. I'm on an Int'l flight, 11 days out, 18 seats open in BF and no visible "releases" yet. Crossing my fingers!

From the one pass site...

I know this was mentioned here before, but was not aware it was on the website.

BF will go with empty seats if you don't clear 72 hours out.

Priority Waitlisting For Reward Travel
We'll help you get the reward you want. If reward seating is unavailable on Continental Airlines at the time of booking, you may ask to be placed on a reward wait list.

As additional reward seats become available, they will be allocated to Elite members first according to Elite status: Platinum Elite members receive top priority; Gold Elite members, next priority; and Silver Elite members, final priority over non-Elite members.

Waitlists are not permitted within 72 hours prior to departure for BusinessFirst upgrade rewards. Waitlisted segments not cleared on BusinessFirst flights 72 hours prior to departure are automatically cancelled.

Well, let me see if I understand why upgrading is so difficult. If say CO saves 7% of its seats for reward travel, what percentage is allowed for mileage upgrades or is this part of the 7%?

Imagine there are 24 BF on a 757 EWR-AMS. If only 7% of seats are reserved for mileage upgrades, this is only 1.68 seats available at all for award travel. Does this sound right? Disappointing?

Is there anywhere we can find out which airlines have larger percentages for mileage upgrades?

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"Fly me to the moon and let me earn alot of miles."

For what it's worth, I'm still waitlisted for BF on my outbound to HKG, but for my return from TPE on NW, I was confirmed in WBC at the time of the reservation, which was 3 weeks ago. I'd have thought some of the BF seats would have been released by now.

For a second I got excited that Platinum Elites would not have to pay change fees for changes to a discount economy ticket, but unfortunately not... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

From the OnePass Website on Mileage segments:

CO's international 757's with BF have only 16 BF seats, not 24. So I guess the chances for upgrades are even worse! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

worldbanker, No the 7% is mearly an average. The reality is they allocate only what they think they can't sell. I fly to Hong Kong this week. Empty bizfirst seats, very easy upgrade. Hawaii... very difficult. All depends on the time of year and the route. Sometimes there might be zero seats or dozens. Remember, "lies, dam n lies and statistics..."

Zipper, at 30,21,14 and 7 days they seem to release. I think your likely to get it at day 7. OR you could pay the $100 change fee and go possibly a day earlier and immediatly confirm (if available). Just a possibility for you to consider.

NjDavid, Last week your promised negative changes to the one pass program this week. Turns out you're incorrect. All the changes are neutral or beneficial. Does your winery only produce vinegar? Now you again say that bad things are still coming... a broken clock is right twice a day. I'm sure enventually there will be a negative change somewhere down the road. But, that does not mean we have to keep crying the sky is falling... how about the old saying, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." Just a thought.

Nicely said Sir Cigar!! NJDavid's time has come....and gone!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Let's be polite and not get ourselves banned... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

"..."if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all..."

That works for me! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Agreement with cigarman! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Never mind. Not worth the effort.

[This message has been edited by NJDavid (edited 05-09-2001).]

Ooohh...I just can't resist physical challenges.....if this were a bar...I'm sure I would've taken him up on his offer to "step outside".. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

What does that mean?

It is not defined on the website, yet.

NjDavid said to me: "Cigarman the source of my information about CO is real. Whether or not it pans out the way I was told it would remains to be seen. Some people with less of a bone to pick have asked me about it privately, and I responded. The only people who have sounded like a broken record on the CO forum since the start of the year are you and your pal above. Perhaps you should just get a life as well.

My apologies again to the community"

NjDavid, My point is you took the Deny thing to an unheard of level. We had to see that "deny deny deny" junk on almost every thread for about three months. I don't have a bone to pick, except I personally believe you have lost all objectivity. Even again in this post you hold out the possiblity the CO is going to do something bad again... You bring up this "man" thing. So to follow your analogy, why can't you be a man and admit that that everything CO does isn't aimed at taking something away or reducing benefits? You sound the real broken record... one tune. You might recall I agree/ agreed that EAU was the pits. I supported you until you lost all objectivity. I sometimes like the changes, and sometimes I don't. However, unlike you I get over it and don't predispose EVERYTHING CO does is bad. Maybe an apology for the constant CO bashing would be more approprate? You clearly were wrong on these latest changes. Can CO never be forgiven? Or is it going to be a case of the troll under the bride saying, saying "I told you so" every time CO makes a change?
Lastly, I am a seperate person than Im4travel. I think for myself, perhaps it is conceivable that people who fly CO... actually LIKE the airline they choose to fly? And thus by you bashing it, it makes them defend the thing they chose? Bottom line. You had hundreds of Deny posts, your gonna have to be a big boy and put up with the (3 whole threads by the way) "i told you so's" by us for a week or two. We certainly won't drag this out as long as you drug out the deny thing. But, if you dish it out you gotta learn how to take it. We are proud of CO and they won a whole bunch of awards. So we are going to say... "we told you they would win again". I do not appreciate your get a life comment... I did not take this to the land of actually creating a web site because I was mad. Perhaps, a little civility in your responses would be appropriate. You railed against a certain now banned poster, yet I never personally attack you, and you insist on making things personal. There is a difference between a debate and an attack. I do not intend to get banned, but I do intend to debate the whole negative "deny, deny, deny" movement. I do agree that another poster makes it personal with you... however, I do not. Keep it civil, I have a valid point. You may not like my point but that doesn't mean you have to resort to slurs. Debators may not agree, but they do not have to make it personal. I'm going to drop this now as it is becoming conter productive and is losing any bearing on CO at this point. See you on future thread.

I very much appreciate the civil tone of the above post. What it says essentially is that it's possible to disagree without taking it to the level of a personal attack or baiting.

"Because we recognize our members’ growing interest in getting the most out of OnePass, we are introducing an exciting new way to achieve Elite status. Mileage segments are now counted as Elite points, which allow you to participate in offers that accelerate your ability to earn Elite status."

I'm very confused. I obtained Elite status last year based on segments, not miles flown, as I take short trips. What are "Elite Points" as opposed to elite miles?

What exactly does this mean?

"Because we recognize our members’ growing interest in getting the most out of OnePass, we are introducing an exciting new way to achieve Elite status. Mileage segments are now counted as Elite points, which allow you to participate in offers that accelerate your ability to earn Elite status."

I'm very confused. I obtained Elite status last year based on segments, not miles flown, as I take short trips. What are "Elite Points" as opposed to elite miles?

What exactly does this mean?

What does this "mileage segments will be counted as points towards Elite status" mean? Segments have always counted towards Elite status...last year I obtained Silver on segments, not miles, since I fly relatively short distances.

I'm confused.

Perhaps we could ALL remember that it is simply a business! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

CO is just trying to make money! As much of it as possible! As soon as possible! For as long as possible! And so on... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

This will potentially help explain quite a few things regarding why they (CO) do what they do! Think "the bottom line!" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif

So they want us to be "happy" and to fly CO all the time rather than another carrier - but the profits are equally as important - and we should not forget it!

Put yourself in their situation! What would you do? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Cigarman...I totally agree with your post above....maybe I took it a little...ok... ALOT too far with NJDavid...I actually liked him in the beginning...but his constant negativity really rubs me the wrong way. You are correct...I LIKE the airline that I choose to fly...and am forced to defend it whenever NJDavid arrives on the scene. Maybe I'll re-think this and offer an olive branch to NJDavid...let's get back on topic..