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MarkXS Feb 20, 2011 1:23 pm
It's clearly the fault of SMI/J. Just like everything else at UA/CO nowadays.:rolleyes:

Most likely due to the extra global warming caused by SMI/J's hot air added to each UA safety announcement.

mduell Feb 20, 2011 2:07 pm
Originally Posted by doobierw (Post 15899852)
I'm afraid you know not what you speak.
B752 LRC is M0.02 faster than B73x; that's about 7 minutes over the course of a 5 hour flight.

Filed airspeeds off recent flightplan suggest they're flying the difference rather than losing it to cost indexing or something.

doobierw Feb 20, 2011 3:05 pm
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kb1992 Feb 20, 2011 3:31 pm
Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 15896185)
Oh come on......C:rolleyes:??

They're not that bad, are they?
Well, when CO is running 737s on transc:rolleyes:ns and 757s to Eur:rolleyes:pe, it gives the impressi:rolleyes:n of LCC.

mduell Feb 20, 2011 3:51 pm
Originally Posted by doobierw (Post 15900502)
I have thousands of hours flight time in both the 73x and 752 here at CAL and am well aware of the published speed capabilities, vice how we employ them on a daily basis.

My statement stands.
Would you like to contribute any information to this thread instead of unsupported denials?

I'm aware operators don't always fly OEM nominal cruise speeds, but if your claim is correct C:rolleyes: dispatch missed the memo are consistently filing faster airspeeds for the 757s than the 737s on transcons.

Here's the filed airspeed data I found for the last two weeks:

COA KEWR-KLAX/KSFO
Code:
equip | max | avg | min
-------+-----+-----+-----
 B738  | 472 | 455 | 441
 B739  | 464 | 456 | 446
 B752  | 481 | 464 | 449
 B753  | 478 | 462 | 451
UAL KJFK-KLAX/KSFO
Code:
equip | max | avg | min
-------+-----+-----+-----
 B752  | 485 | 460 | 449
COA KLAX/KSFO-KEWR
Code:
equip | max | avg | min
-------+-----+-----+-----
 B738  | 465 | 446 | 434
 B739  | 466 | 450 | 440
 B752  | 483 | 458 | 448
 B753  | 472 | 455 | 447
UAL KLAX/KSFO-KJFK
Code:
equip | max | avg | min
-------+-----+-----+-----
 B752  | 466 | 454 | 446

Mr.Nuke Feb 20, 2011 4:45 pm
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CelticIAH Feb 20, 2011 4:58 pm
Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 15900611)
Well, when CO is running 737s on transc:rolleyes:ns and 757s to Eur:rolleyes:pe, it gives the impressi:rolleyes:n of LCC.
Yep, those lie-flats on the 752 are horrendous on tatl...don't even get me started on the y product with AVOD and in seat power. ;)

Now if only we could get that state of the art UA 747 Y product on our long-hauls...:D

kb1992 Feb 20, 2011 8:18 pm
Originally Posted by CelticIAH (Post 15900944)
Yep, those lie-flats on the 752 are horrendous on tatl...don't even get me started on the y product with AVOD and in seat power. ;)

Now if only we could get that state of the art UA 747 Y product on our long-hauls...:D
yeah, tell me, which global airline uses 757s to fly Europe-USA?

by the way, with only 16 BF seats, good luck with SWU upgrades. If no upgrade, then be ready for 31" pitch cattle class even if you are elite. :o:o

UA 747 Y sucks for long hauls, but at least elites get E+. CO 757 Y to Europe is worse, unless you don't like more leg room.

What I care about is getting a decent ride and 8-9 hour flights on a LCC style plane with one aisle and two bathrooms for 160 coach customers is far short of decent in my book.

Mr.Nuke Feb 20, 2011 9:36 pm
Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 15901741)
yeah, tell me, which global airline uses 757s to fly Europe-USA?
Continental, American, Delta, US, etc.

CMK10 Feb 21, 2011 3:41 pm
Sounds like one of those days where I used to be terrified to drive on the Tappan Zee Bridge

DaddyRabbit Feb 21, 2011 3:44 pm
Headwinds
 
Originally Posted by krentzie (Post 15893968)
Whats going on with the headwinds this week? All flights from EWR to west coast are pretty much projected to arrive 50 mins late. Been like this all week and again today. Saw a EWR-SNA flight on Thursday that before they even left it was projected to land an hour and 10 mins late. Is there a site out there to check what the headwinds are?
I have been on flights from the U.S. to Asia that had to make unscheudled stops to for fuel, especially in the Winter, because of strong headwinds.

dinoscool3 Feb 21, 2011 3:50 pm
Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 15901741)
yeah, tell me, which global airline uses 757s to fly Europe-USA?

by the way, with only 16 BF seats, good luck with SWU upgrades. If no upgrade, then be ready for 31" pitch cattle class even if you are elite. :o:o

UA 747 Y sucks for long hauls, but at least elites get E+. CO 757 Y to Europe is worse, unless you don't like more leg room.

What I care about is getting a decent ride and 8-9 hour flights on a LCC style plane with one aisle and two bathrooms for 160 coach customers is far short of decent in my book.
I like the 757 compared to UA 747s, you can get a bulkhead, and AVOD, yep that's what I call an LCC....


Originally Posted by CelticIAH (Post 15900944)
Yep, those lie-flats on the 752 are horrendous on tatl...don't even get me started on the y product with AVOD and in seat power. ;)

Now if only we could get that state of the art UA 747 Y product on our long-hauls...:D
+1 :p ^


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