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Originally Posted by gawhite411
(Post 15856870)
:rolleyes: Really? I mean you are basically saying that every single misbehaving child is the parent's fault? That's just not the case. Some kids are difficult no matter what.
To you main point -- I have no problem with kids in the PC as long as they are not making noise. The family room is a wonderful thing; when i travel with my niece and nephew we use the family room. But if the kids are making noise and the parent cannot get them under control, then the family should be asked to leave. Noisy children get taken out of movie theaters and church and they should be taken out of the PC if they are disruptive. Even if your children are much better than most children because you are the perfect mother. RNE, I understand that the PC is for peace. I am business traveller most of the time. I agree that unruly children shouldn't be allowed to run riot in the PC. |
I've been traveling with my 6-year-old internationally since she was 18 months old. Aside from one bad DCA-LAX flight (her very first), she's always been great at airports, PCs, and on flights. When she had her fit on that first flight - we were in Y, no wonder - I made a point of apologizing to all our neighbors, and made every attempt to calm her down, distract her, and keep her occupied. You can't always work miracles with kids, especially if they are babies or toddlers, but if you're at least TRYING, people give you their sympathy. What rubs me - and most other people - the wrong way is parents who believe that ignoring their kids' bad behavior is the best course of action, especially if they happen to be watching a movie or reading the paper. I once asked a mother "is your son ok?" after the boy cried for the best part of an hour. She took off her headphones, and answered calmly "He is fine, it's a cry for attention so it's best to ignore it". I felt like strangling her, not him. If you want to ignore your unruly child at home, knock yourself out. But on an airplane where your son is disrupting 200 other passengers, how about you do some parenting for a change?
Side note - my 6-year-old enjoyed the flat beds on our NRT trip in November, but then sat in Y on our way back from CDG in January. As the FA collected our lunch trays and asked how she liked her pasta, she smiled and say "Thank you, lunch was very good for Economy". Spoiled brat. The FA was still laughing when we landed :) |
This is def one for the "worst flight experience" thread. That's unbelievable. I hope that you were able to enjoy some part of that journey and discuss the experience with the airline. We're the FAs unable to do anything at all?
Originally Posted by Jade_BR
(Post 15838655)
That's wrong on so many levels.
I have to agree that the quality of passengers has gone down. That is easily observed in the front cabin just as much as in the back. Call me old fashioned, but I still believe that you should wear nice clothes when you travel, particularly if you're sitting in front. If nothing else, do it on international flights because you can bet your behind the customs and immigration officers DO notice. It may be wrong, biased, whatever, but you have less chance of a room-with-no-windows interview or open-even-your-eyeglasses-case experience if you look like you belong there instead of a homeless person who found a boarding pass in the trash. I make a point of never wearing jeans or sneakers when I fly, no matter where I'm sitting. I don't go to the extreme of wearing high heels unless I'm on my way to a meeting, but slacks, shirt and pashmina is my minimum standard. My favorite story? I was supposed to be in business class on a flight to Moscow but Air France screwed up my reservation and upgraded me to first as a result (really nice, I had my own dedicated FA and sommelier). No problems on the way out, but on the way back I shared the cabin with two other passengers, both of them loud Russians who proceeded to down at least 4 glasses of vodka, burping loudly after each slurp. One took off his shoes and promptly hung his socks on the headrest of the seat next to him. Not satisfied, he got up, stretched, stuck his hand inside his pants and gave himself a good 5-minute scratch, sighing contently and smiling at me. The other made a point of touching the FA each time she approached him (nothing sexual but still pretty invasive). They also performed a loud duet after take-off, apparently celebrating the fact that we were leaving mother Russia behind (who wouldn't!). Their attire consisted of jogging pants, Hawaiian shirts and baseball caps. Even if they had been quiet and sober, that alone would offend me. |
This gentleman just represents the current American culture: No class, no manners, no grooming. He could be on any airline or in any airlines airport lounge.
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Originally Posted by CRAZYBUBBA
(Post 15861388)
This is def one for the "worst flight experience" thread. That's unbelievable. I hope that you were able to enjoy some part of that journey and discuss the experience with the airline. We're the FAs unable to do anything at all?
I did get some rest on that flight once the Russians passed out. At that particular point I was very thankful for the amount of vodka they drank. |
Originally Posted by svancleavemd
(Post 15861505)
This gentleman just represents the current American culture: No class, no manners, no grooming. He could be on any airline or in any airlines airport lounge.
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My favorite club is EWR between C2 and C3 next to Starbucks. I usually hang out at the bar and the employees are very nice and I have met some very nice people there over the years. I was there last Friday night and I had a great time.
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Originally Posted by svancleavemd
"This gentleman just represents the current American culture: No class, no manners, no grooming. He could be on any airline or in any airlines airport lounge." Frankly, manners and culture haven't changed much since a century ago. People raised in upper and upper middle class homes then and now generally demonstrate a certain amount of public decorum and standard of grooming. The difference is the sudden wealth created by certain booms, as well as a a democratization of the flying experience created by deregulation and frequent flier programs has enabled people not well-raised access to places they were heretofore unable to partake of due to a limited purse. My comment is not meant to be pejorative, simply a reflection of societal change. |
My new favorite:
I'm at the Term E PC @ IAH on my way to FRA. Guy in the next cubicle row over is watching a movie on his PC. Without headphones. In Chinese. And it's cranked. The older I get, the more I hate people. |
Originally Posted by SeaRaptor
(Post 15895947)
The older I get, the more I hate people.
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Originally Posted by Jade_BR
(Post 15838655)
That's wrong on so many levels.
I have to agree that the quality of passengers has gone down. That is easily observed in the front cabin just as much as in the back. Call me old fashioned, but I still believe that you should wear nice clothes when you travel, particularly if you're sitting in front. If nothing else, do it on international flights because you can bet your behind the customs and immigration officers DO notice. It may be wrong, biased, whatever, but you have less chance of a room-with-no-windows interview or open-even-your-eyeglasses-case experience if you look like you belong there instead of a homeless person who found a boarding pass in the trash. I make a point of never wearing jeans or sneakers when I fly, no matter where I'm sitting. I don't go to the extreme of wearing high heels unless I'm on my way to a meeting, but slacks, shirt and pashmina is my minimum standard. |
Back to strange behavior in the PC. By adults. So, I was in the B Terminal PC and there was a guy (a male type guy) in the bar with a pet carrier on one of the tables. With a cat. He let the cat out and the cat urinated on the floor of the bar. The poor janitor comes out and has to clean it up.
I don't think much can top that. |
Jeans fine. Sandals fine. Men's tee shirts with the oversize armholes, bare feet, sweat shorts not fine. It is so easy to wear something comfortable that is still presentable. It's a shame there are always folks who aren't sufficiently comfortable until something's bare, up close and personal next to a captive seat mate.
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And remember
..........there ain't no cure for stupid:cool:
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Originally Posted by manneca
(Post 15896651)
Back to strange behavior in the PC. By adults. So, I was in the B Terminal PC and there was a guy (a male type guy) in the bar with a pet carrier on one of the tables. With a cat. He let the cat out and the cat urinated on the floor of the bar. The poor janitor comes out and has to clean it up.
I don't think much can top that. |
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